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struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
Sun May 10, 2015, 04:17 PM May 2015

A thread remembering William M Gaines





TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM M. GAINES, PUBLISHER, ENTERTAINING COMICS GROUP, NEW YORK, N. Y.
... Mr. GAINES. Since 1942 we have sold more than 5 million copies of Picture Stories from the Bible, in the United States. It is widely used by churches and schools to make religion more real and vivid ...



... When William Gaines inherited the company from his prematurely deceased father, Max, he realized that these were not the type of material that flew off the stands ... Calling EC Comics "graphic" was an understatement .... Zombies, werewolves, and other familiar creatures of horror were drawn with realistic detail ... Covers, which typically show only a taste of what lay inside the magazine, would show a piece of whittled wood about to be hammered into a man's heart as he lays in a coffin, indicating vampirism (TALES FROM THE CRYPT 42), and then two months later show the blatant beheading of a man at the hands of an iron maiden (TALES FROM THE CRYPT 44) ...



TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM M. GAINES, PUBLISHER, ENTERTAINING COMICS GROUP, NEW YORK, N. Y.
... Mr. GAINES. You will see that a child leads a miserable life in the 6 or 7 pages. It is only on the last page she emerges triumphant ...



TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM M. GAINES, PUBLISHER, ENTERTAINING COMICS GROUP, NEW YORK, N. Y.
... Senator KEFAUVER. Here is your May 22 issue. This seems to be a man with a bloody ax holding a woman's head up which has been severed from her body. Do you think that is in good taste?
Mr. GAINES. Yes, sir; I do, for the cover of a horror comic. A cover in bad taste, for example, might be defined as holding the head a little higher so that the neck could be seen dripping blood from it and moving the body over a little further so that the neck of the body could be seen to be bloody ...




... In 1952 Gaines launched Mad as a 10-cent comic book titled "Tales Calculated to Drive You MAD." Although he staunchly denied that horror comics had any connection to juvenile crime, Gaines was the object of congressional scrutiny in 1955, testifying at widely publicized U.S. Senate hearings. Gaines abandoned the horror strips and changed Mad to a magazine format in order to circumvent the Comic Codes Authority, which grew out of the hearings. The codes banned disrespect for established authority -- Mad's stock in trade ...
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A thread remembering William M Gaines (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2015 OP
GREAT post - sharing with mr blm. blm May 2015 #1
There's a great story Cartoonist May 2015 #2
I remember that one. blm May 2015 #3
OOPS edhopper May 2015 #4
Or mebbe it was "He walked among us" (Weird Science #13 May/Jun 1952)? struggle4progress May 2015 #7
You are right edhopper May 2015 #9
What a great one-pager! struggle4progress May 2015 #17
Yes, that's it. Cartoonist May 2015 #11
No, that's not it. Cartoonist May 2015 #8
S4P corrected me edhopper May 2015 #10
Weird Science. Funny - how themes can take hold blm May 2015 #14
Jack Kamen edhopper May 2015 #5
As far as I know edhopper May 2015 #6
He may have been. He was certainly inclined to heckle the establishment, and struggle4progress May 2015 #12
I only mention it because we are in edhopper May 2015 #13
I had to work a bit to squeeze this thread into the Religion forum struggle4progress May 2015 #16
When I was a kid, my mother confiscated my MAD mags. xfundy May 2015 #15
I suspect MAD was a subversive influence for many of us struggle4progress May 2015 #18
For me, it was, for which I am grateful. nt raccoon May 2015 #20
+1. Missed much of his work somewhere along the way. pinto May 2015 #19

Cartoonist

(7,311 posts)
2. There's a great story
Sun May 10, 2015, 04:44 PM
May 2015

in one of the SF titles they did that told of a spaceman who was stranded on another planet. The events of his life resembled that of Jesus. This caused a great stink among the believers who thought their savior was being mocked.

Cartoonist

(7,311 posts)
11. Yes, that's it.
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

One of the comments:

"He Walked Among Us" shocked myself and my friends. Now don't think we're "Holy Joes" or anything like that, but that story openly attacks the Christian religion!

Cartoonist

(7,311 posts)
8. No, that's not it.
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:17 PM
May 2015

This spaceman had the ability to cure diseases due to his advanced technology. He also inspired the people to rebel against the ruling class. They tortured him on a rack-like device. The people came to wear a miniature replica of the torture device around their neck. This really grated the Christians.

blm

(113,019 posts)
14. Weird Science. Funny - how themes can take hold
Sun May 10, 2015, 08:55 PM
May 2015

and spread - there were really many fine, irreverent, controversial offerings once the ball started rolling. Here we are trying to recall the early ones - a task that is becoming more difficult for those of us of a certain age. ; )


edhopper

(33,491 posts)
5. Jack Kamen
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:08 PM
May 2015

who drew many of those great horror and SF stories was the father of Dean Kamen, who invented the Seque.

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
6. As far as I know
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:14 PM
May 2015

he was an atheist.

Though that has little do with his publishing, other than he was an iconoclast.

If he had only done EC or MAD, he would have been great, but both are make him exemplary.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
12. He may have been. He was certainly inclined to heckle the establishment, and
Sun May 10, 2015, 06:05 PM
May 2015

he had the endearing trait of not taking himself too seriously either. "Tales from the Crypt" TV episodes based on Gaines comics are often much better than other episodes

edhopper

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13. I only mention it because we are in
Sun May 10, 2015, 07:37 PM
May 2015

the Religion Forum.

I don't know what impact it had on his books. If any.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
16. I had to work a bit to squeeze this thread into the Religion forum
Sun May 10, 2015, 09:35 PM
May 2015

The gambit I found was the Bible comics

The real reason for the thread is the on-going long-term debate on "mockery"

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
15. When I was a kid, my mother confiscated my MAD mags.
Sun May 10, 2015, 09:15 PM
May 2015

Thankfully, now there's DU to challenge and undermine authority.

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