Pakistan Ulemas: Suicide Bombings Un-Islamic .

[rug]

The religious leaders also announced that May 22 would be observed as a “Day of Peace and Love” against terrorism and extremism.

Monday, 18 May 2015 00:00

CAIRO – In a new move against militant groups, more than 200 Pakistani scholars have issued a decree stipulating that suicide attacks carried out by militant groups are against Islam.

“The Islamic government is bound to crush such rebels,” read a decree issued by at a conference of ulema in Lahore on Sunday, Dawn reported on Monday, May 18.

Meeting in Lahore, the scholars said the philosophy behind the so-called Islamic State (ISIL), banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram and other so-called jihadi outfits was misleading.

The decree, released to the media by Maulana Ziaul Haq Naqshband, added that such groups operated in an un-Islamic manner and their thinking was flawed because it was based on poor knowledge and ignorance.

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/486255-pakistan-ulemas-suicide-bombings-un-islamic.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulama

[cbayer]

1. Well, it's something. Now if they would do something about their blasphemy laws…….

[MisterP]

2. actually these groups' appeal is that you can ignore all clergy: for a decade the West's warmongers

were bellering for "a Muslim Reformation": looks like they got what they wanted ...

[Jim__]

3. Bill Maher will probably applaud that decree on his next show.

Or, maybe not.

[rug]

4. He'll probably make fun of their hats.

[cbayer]

5. Or say that they all have explosives strapped to their bodies

under those "funny" clothes.

He's a regular riot.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Well that settles that.

Or not.

[Yorktown]

7. How about stopping to perform underage marriages?

Marriages in Pakistan are mostly underage:

Another UNICEF report claims 70 per cent of girls in Pakistan are married before the age of 16.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage#Pakistan

Apparently, from a sample of 56, one third of Brit imams accept to perform the marriage ceremony of 14 year old girls if requested by the father:

UK Imams agree to perform underage marriages
The Exposure undercover reporter, posing as the mother of the girl.

Religious leaders appeared willing to agree to perform underage marriages at some mosques across the UK, an ITV investigation has discovered.

Two undercover reporters called 56 mosques for Exposure to ask whether they would perform the marriage of a 14-year-old girl.
Two-thirds of those contacted refused to perform the marriage, and many of them made clear they found the request abhorrent. But 18 of the respondents spoken to agreed.

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/

[rug]

8. Are there any other topics you wish to discuss before discussing terrorism?

[Yorktown]

9. Why? Is rejection of terrorism by some clerics whitewashing all the ills of Islam?

A parallel would be to say that if all Christians swore to behave better than the Westboro 'church',

it would be impolite to raise the problem of the Church pounding on the school programs committees to include 'intelligent design'.

[rug]

10. Because your post is a non sequitur.

[Yorktown]

13. Nope. My post was inclusiveness-inducing.

Or, in less mock silly terms, I refuse to take the article at face value.

I will not celebrate clerics of any kind making one step forward if they have 99 others to take.

I won't celebrate cannibals promising not to eat people alive, but to kill their food first.

I reject cannibalism until it morphs into eating non humans.

And I'm a vegetarian.

[nil desperandum]

11. Well it's something

I wish them well in their endeavors...

Of course not all Pakistani clerics agree that the Taliban is bad....

Pakistan: Muslim cleric says fight against Taliban is “un-Islamic”
DECEMBER 24, 2014

The hardline cleric of Pakistan's infamous Red Mosque here today stoked fresh controversy by calling the military offensive against Taliban militants in the North Waziristan region "un-Islamic". Abdul Aziz, who survived a 2007 military operation against militants hiding in the mosque when he was caught trying to escape wearing a burqa, said he can prove that the military operation was against the teachings of Islam.

"This operation in the North Waziristan is un-Islamic," Aziz said.

"I can debate this issue...Call scholars from abroad -- from India and Bangladesh -- and I will prove that this operation is un-Islamic," he said.

Aziz in a TV appearance after Tuesday's Peshawar school attack in which 148 people died refused to unconditionally condemn the attack claimed by Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan

Then there's the whole Pakistani ISI supporting the Taliban thing that wiki-leaks revealed some years back...

Kind of difficult to counter the state run security apparatus with a few sermons, but one can hope it gains traction in Pakistan.

[rug]

12. "the state run security apparatus" is the key phrase in discussing religion and state.

[Fumesucker]

14. A specifically Islamic state in the case of Pakistan

[Yorktown]

15. Not totally yet

Fully expect Pakistan to become incredibly worse.

I'd give it a decade tops for full scale islamist insurgency.