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This summer these dreadfully dumb and mean people are going to go berzerk NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1
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Which is why it's important to form coalitions among all kinds of people that cbayer May 2015 #4
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #20
Sadly, the dominionists in this country have gotten way too far cbayer May 2015 #21
He's listed by the SPLC as an extremist and he is really scary. cbayer May 2015 #2
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You are ready to learn. Somehow you just aren't coming across as very receptive, cbayer May 2015 #6
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Why do you consider them a minority? cbayer May 2015 #9
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Declaring war on bigots is an honorable thing to do. I'm strongly in support of that. cbayer May 2015 #17
relax. The person who is admonishing you has no official capacity in this forum. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #8
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Oh this hostility again. hrmjustin May 2015 #11
are youm talking about asharpwone edhopper May 2015 #13
One can say both. hrmjustin May 2015 #14
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I think hostility is the right response edhopper May 2015 #16
Yes he deserves all the hostility we can send his way. cbayer May 2015 #19
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All she is ever right about? hrmjustin May 2015 #25
Better than I know myself, I am sure. cbayer May 2015 #27
lol. hrmjustin May 2015 #28
Excellent decision on your part. cbayer May 2015 #26
yes i know. hrmjustin May 2015 #18
Quick! Look over there! cbayer May 2015 #22
lol. hrmjustin May 2015 #23

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. This summer these dreadfully dumb and mean people are going to go berzerk
Fri May 22, 2015, 03:59 PM
May 2015

when gay marriage is finally the law of the land.

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #1)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Which is why it's important to form coalitions among all kinds of people that
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:17 PM
May 2015

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will work together to fight this guy and people like him.

But that means recognizing that there are religious people that are willing to stand with you and find him just as reprehensible and threatening as you do.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,148 posts)
20. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:52 PM
May 2015

says the first Amendment.

So how exactly is he planning on carrying out his Taliban plan?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
21. Sadly, the dominionists in this country have gotten way too far
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

while we have been looking the other way.

It's time for progressives and liberals to join forces against them and stop hating on each other because some people have religious beliefs and some people don't.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. He's listed by the SPLC as an extremist and he is really scary.
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

There is not "value" to his religious beliefs, but he is an extremist and not representative of anyone but other extremists.

So were the 9/11 terrorists.

Are you really trying to link all christians and muslims with these people?

Frankly, you are missing pretty much everything about the value of religious beliefs, because your lens is extraordinarily distorted.

Response to cbayer (Reply #2)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. You are ready to learn. Somehow you just aren't coming across as very receptive,
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:58 PM
May 2015

but we shall see.

Pathetic? Queen of strawmen? You think I might be two people? You seem to know my caricature oh so well. Odd, that.

There is no doubt that Lane is an extremist who's agenda needs to be exposed and confronted at every turn.

If all you can see when you look at stories about religion on your TV machine or your inter tubes is the hateful extremist, then you are looking with blinders and only see what suits your very clear agenda.

Try reading all the stories and not just the ones that prop up your POV.

Start here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218199450
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218199179
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218199066
http://www.thenation.com/blog/197961/2015-moral-monday-movement-north-carolina-our-selma
http://notalllikethat.org

And after you finish with that, get back to me and I will give you some other sources.

Response to cbayer (Reply #6)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Why do you consider them a minority?
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:25 PM
May 2015

You have highlighted a small handful of people. That's a minority

Believers don't need to buck the trends and messages of their religions. Many embrace what they believe to be the religious tenants of social justice, economic equality and civil rights. Many take very seriously their belief that they are here to take care of the neediest and most marginalized among us.

It is you that can only see the one side of the message that is negative. What prevents you from seeing the positive aspects?

Whether you see the positive aspects as having value or not is completely inconsequential. Good people will continue to do good things for both secular and religious reasons with or without your support.

You will remain in a perpetual state of starvation no matter how much I feed you. Your mind is made up. You think you have found the one way. A clock who's minute hand has fallen off is never right.

Response to cbayer (Reply #9)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
17. Declaring war on bigots is an honorable thing to do. I'm strongly in support of that.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

You've been reading my posts for a lot longer than a month or two, so why don't you just be honest this one time. You are soon to be madly embraced by those who see you as an ally, and that asharpwone, is my favorite part.

So, you can decide which path to take at this point.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. relax. The person who is admonishing you has no official capacity in this forum.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:19 PM
May 2015

This is not a protected safe haven. The religion group is open to believers and non-believers and you are welcome to voice your opinions, whatever they may be, about religion and non-religion as you see fit. You do not have to meet cbayer's absurd and massively inconsistent standards.

Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #8)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. Oh this hostility again.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:36 PM
May 2015

edhopper

(37,171 posts)
13. are youm talking about asharpwone
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:42 PM
May 2015

or this GOP asshole?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
14. One can say both.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

We are not all like this guy.

Response to edhopper (Reply #13)

edhopper

(37,171 posts)
16. I think hostility is the right response
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

to the GOP asshole in this article.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
19. Yes he deserves all the hostility we can send his way.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

Response to cbayer (Reply #19)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
25. All she is ever right about?
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

Do you know her?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
27. Better than I know myself, I am sure.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:06 PM
May 2015
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. lol.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
26. Excellent decision on your part.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:05 PM
May 2015

Have a great time.

Maybe if you get a chance you can reflect on how full frontal attacks on religious people in general don't do much to further the cause of getting more people to join with you to GOTV.

I'll work on being right about more things while you are gone. I'm not at all optimistic, but wish me luck!

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
18. yes i know.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:50 PM
May 2015

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
22. Quick! Look over there!
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:57 PM
May 2015
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
23. lol.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015
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