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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:22 PM May 2015

‘Boys are curious': Meet the Duggar defenders using religion to excuse fondling your sleeping sister


Josh Duggar, his wife, and his parents issued statements Thursday confirming reports that he had engaged in “inexcusable” behavior more than a decade ago, when he was 14 years old, and he resigned his job with the anti-LGBT Family Research Council as calls poured into TLC to cancel the long-running “19 Kids and Counting.”

However, the Duggars’ defenders offered prayers and messages of support on social media.

“Love y’all and Josh I admire you for admitting to your parents and getting help and again admitting it to Anna before you got married,” said Leah Maxwell McCool. “You are no different than anyone else who have sinned and changed their ways. I’m standing beside you 100%!”

“Love the whole duggar family you are so blessed!!!!” said Amy McGarvey.

“Everyone makes mistakes but our God is a forgiving God,” said Angela-Angie Nichols Long. “When we ask for forgiveness, he forgives us. He died on the cross not only for sins of that time but for future sins as well. Keep your head up and remember whose you are.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/boys-are-curious-meet-the-duggar-defenders-using-religion-to-excuse-fondling-your-sleeping-sisters/
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‘Boys are curious': Meet the Duggar defenders using religion to excuse fondling your sleeping sister (Original Post) Warren Stupidity May 2015 OP
Disgusting! hrmjustin May 2015 #1
I wonder if they'd call it "curiosity" if it was THEIR child being molested Siwsan May 2015 #2
There's curious... xfundy May 2015 #3
One is curious when one is 2 3 4 or 5 notadmblnd May 2015 #8
So you can molest your sisters for years and it's OK because God forgives? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #4
All sin is equal in God's eyes Mariana May 2015 #27
Why do the Duggers still have their other kids? They confessed to child endangerment. cheyanne May 2015 #5
Excellent question. In_The_Wind May 2015 #11
Because god. bvf May 2015 #6
God's forgiveness cannot undo the damage to those who have been abused. In_The_Wind May 2015 #7
Isn't that what confession is for? bvf May 2015 #14
Those 5 little girls are going to need help because of what Josh did to them. In_The_Wind May 2015 #15
Did you miss bvf May 2015 #16
I didn't miss it In_The_Wind May 2015 #20
Sorry if I misunderstood. bvf May 2015 #22
No problem. In_The_Wind May 2015 #23
That's what repentence is for. okasha May 2015 #17
How about a little old-fashioned time in prison? bvf May 2015 #18
An excellent environment for repentence. okasha May 2015 #19
An absolutely horrible environment for repentance, bvf May 2015 #21
No, I didn't say that. okasha May 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #9
Since he was working for the anti-LGBT group, maybe he is still curious. Thinkingabout May 2015 #10
He knew better. bravenak May 2015 #12
Quite a few need a good Smitedown also. misterhighwasted May 2015 #13
evangenitals is what I call them,, sounds better juxtaposed May 2015 #24
He's got at least one daughter AndreaCG May 2015 #26

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
2. I wonder if they'd call it "curiosity" if it was THEIR child being molested
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:25 PM
May 2015

This whole story makes me want to throw things.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
3. There's curious...
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:26 PM
May 2015

... and then there's incest. No amount of curiosity could make billions of other people do that.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. One is curious when one is 2 3 4 or 5
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:30 PM
May 2015

When one is 14, one is just being a horny little prick who knows better than to touch little girls in their sleep but does it anyway

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
4. So you can molest your sisters for years and it's OK because God forgives?
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:28 PM
May 2015

What about the sisters? Does anybody give a crap about them?

I have to think that there's a whole lot more to this story. Yes, he was only 14, but a 14-year-old is old enough to know that molesting your little sisters is a very, very bad thing to do. But what was going on in that family, which presumably didn't talk about sex at all, ever, because it's evil and ungodly unless done for procreation, that made him think that behavior was something that was either not so bad at all, or that even if it was bad, he could get away with it? Molesters often start out as molestees, after all.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
27. All sin is equal in God's eyes
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:22 PM
May 2015

is what I was taught in Fundie Sunday School. All of them, including just Thinking Bad Thoughts, get the exact same punishment - roasting in hell for eternity. Coveting is equal to stealing. Having a wet dream about your (adult) neighbor is equal to adultery, or rape, or murder, or genocide. Etc.

Like you, I suspect there's a lot more to this story.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
5. Why do the Duggers still have their other kids? They confessed to child endangerment.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:29 PM
May 2015

From the way they handled Josh and their daughters, I would think that Child Protective Services would be doing an investigation of their parenting . . .

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. Isn't that what confession is for?
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:57 PM
May 2015


Say "I'm sorry" to an imaginary being, do a rosary or two, and all is good.

Easy peasy!



In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
15. Those 5 little girls are going to need help because of what Josh did to them.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:44 PM
May 2015

I don't buy into the all is forgiven bull.

Being sexually abused causes a lifetime of pain.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
16. Did you miss
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:43 PM
May 2015

the sarcasm thingie in my reply?

Lots of people buy into the "all is forgiven" bull. It's a pretty popular mechanism used to excuse high-profile-media religious types whenever their caught with their hand in the metaphorical cookie jar.

ETA: There is no such thing as "god's forgiveness."

There is a human sense of morality. Nothing more. If you require a higher power of some sort to provide guidance on how to treat your fellow human being, I don't get it.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
20. I didn't miss it
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:32 PM
May 2015

I was agreeing with you just in case anyone was confused as to my feelings on the matter.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
23. No problem.
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:47 PM
May 2015

I usually get in trouble for saying too little and wondering why I'm misunderstood. The queen of innuendos.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
17. That's what repentence is for.
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015

Unfortunately, Josh Duggar shows no sign of it, nor do his enabling parents.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
19. An excellent environment for repentence.
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015

Unfortunately, he probably can't be charged now with what he did as a juvenile. If he kept up the molestation once he hit 17-18, though, he ought to be fair game.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
21. An absolutely horrible environment for repentance,
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:39 PM
May 2015

I agree. I take your meaning. However, we should just let it go now because he's right with his god?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
25. No, I didn't say that.
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:22 PM
May 2015

And I question whether he has repented or is "right with his god.". I see no evidence that be has even begun to try to make amends to his victims. Mere confession isn't enough.

As for prison, prosecutors are bound by the law. But pedophiles don't usually stop their behavior unless they are completely isolated from children. I'd bet a bunch he has a stash of kiddie porn. Find that, and they'd have him cold.

Response to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Since he was working for the anti-LGBT group, maybe he is still curious.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:31 PM
May 2015

Is his defenders ready to love everyone and stop the hate? If not why forgive Josh now.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
12. He knew better.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

And he went right out campaigning against gays while hiding behind god. He lacks empathy but wants sympathy and forgivness. My least favorite type of religious person is the guilty person who judges the innocent.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
13. Quite a few need a good Smitedown also.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:38 PM
May 2015

How the hell can anyone dismiss incest the way some of those posters do.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
26. He's got at least one daughter
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:02 PM
May 2015

I hope child protective services is starting an investigation pronto. Cause a 14/15 year old who molests his five year old sister isn't necessarily going to be squeamish about doing the same to his own little girl.

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