Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Religion
Related: About this forumHow the Irish Gay Marriage Debate Isn’t Like America’s
Scandals dog both European and American religious conservatives. So why are religious Europeans the only ones reacting to them?
Ireland may be Catholic, but the cathedral is a glass house.
If, as expected, todays country-wide referendum on same-sex marriage passes, one major reason will be the loss of moral authority among those who pretend to speak with moral authority. Chiefly, in Ireland, this means the Catholic Church, which for decades tyrannized Irish politics before its tyranny of Irish boys was exposed beginning in the early 2000s.
Its hard to make a case for family values when your institution systematically raped childrenup to 30,000, it is estimated, in church-run orphanages alone.
Today, only 18 percent of Irish Catholics attend Mass weeklydown from 90 percent in the 1980s. In Dublin, there are only two priests under the age of 40.
Even the Dublin Archbishops Pastoral Reflection on Marriage, meant to encourage a No vote on the referendum, admitted that I know that the severity with which the Irish Church treated gay and lesbian people in the pastand in some cases still todaymakes it difficult for some to understand the Churchs position.
Well, that and the systematic shielding of pedophiles.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/22/how-irish-gay-marriage-isn-t-like-america-s.html
Harsh, but accurate analysis of what just happened in Ireland and why.
2 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How the Irish Gay Marriage Debate Isn’t Like America’s (Original Post)
Warren Stupidity
May 2015
OP
LostOne4Ever
(9,746 posts)1. It has been a bad week for the religious right
[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal] Which will only push more people my age (millenial/gen x), and younger, away from these RW religious loons!
That is something that will benefit everyone![/font]
rug
(82,333 posts)2. The other difference is the debate in Ireland is over.