Pope Francis: Men and women are different for a reason

[Humanist_Activist]

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]Allow me to draw your attention to the value and beauty of marriage. The complementarity of man and woman, the vertex of the divine creation, is being questioned by gender ideology, in the name of a freer and more just society. The difference between man and woman is not meant to stand in opposition, or to subordinate, but is for the sake of communion and generation, always “in the image and likeness of God.”

Without mutual self-giving, the two cannot even understand the depth of what it means to be man and woman. (General Audience April 15, 2015) The sacrament of marriage is a sign of the love of God for humanity and Christ’s self-giving to his Spouse, the Church. Take care of this treasure, one of the “most important of the Latin American and Caribbean peoples.” (Aparecida, 433)

This excerpt is a direct quote from the man himself, but, outside of the obvious homophobia of the emphasis on the "complementary nature of marriage." I want to draw attention to the whole Gender Ideology/theory meme that this Pope in particular, seems fond of using.

The closest I can come to a consistent definition is here. However, this paper seems to talk about historical trends and generational gaps, not sure if the Pope is using this definition.

I will say that it seems like the term is being used as a catch-all term, especially by Catholics, to describe basically all the research and cultural changes that have occurred in secular society in the past 50 years or so. It seems to encompass everything from Feminism to LGBT rights, and of course, all of those are bad things according to Catholic leaders and official media.

[AtheistCrusader]

1. Im confused why this professional virgin thinks he has an idea what mutual self giving is about

Be nice if he and his church would just fuck off forever.

[Lordquinton]

2. I was gonna ask if god was married

But apparently jesus married the church, which seems impossible as you can't marry a corporation, and comparing women to the church is really offencive on so many levels.

[AtheistCrusader]

3. I'm told by certain conservatives that corporations are people too.

[Lordquinton]

4. So you can marry a corporation

Jesus married to a bunch of old men? A bunch of vorginal old men who refer to their group in the feminine.

This keeps getting creepier.

[mr blur]

15. Well, if you think that's creepy,

there are people here who want to marry bicycles. And various household pets. Some people are just beyond help.

[Lordquinton]

16. Sometimes i wish i could mantain cognative dissonance

Like that, but do i really want to use my powers for opression like that?

[Humanist_Activist]

5. Interesting little tidbit, Yahweh, or Yahweh-El, or El, whatever, the deities that...

formed the basis for the Hebrew God may have had a wife/consort, Asherah.

[Lordquinton]

8. I remember reading that

And also that he was a god in a pantheon until they dropped the rest for some reason.

Kinda throws the whole mythology on it's ear.

[Humanist_Activist]

9. From what I understand, a lot of Christians and Jews say that it was a...

process where the Israelites eventually came to discover the One True God through polytheism that developed to monotheism somewhere around 600 to 200 BCE.

[Lordquinton]

10. It's amazing how people can rationalize things

That they found the true path or something. They don't realize how offensive what they are saying really is.

[Humanist_Activist]

11. I mean, in a sense, they are correct, Israelites did develop monotheism, but then again...

so did other cultures as well. Brahma seems just as likely to be the One True God, as is Amun. Why Yahweh is different is never specified.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. "image and likeness of god"? Seriously?

In this day and age the RCC still wants to go with an anthropomorphic deity? What a remarkably idiotic concept.

The popey guy doesn't like the distinction between sex and gender. He wants a simpler system where everyone behaves according to his rules and nobody strays from his idiotic view of human sexuality.

[cbayer]

7. The Gender Ideology meme is a very negative position in many ways.

It serves as an argument against GLBT rights as well as a way to uphold gender-defined roles for both men and women.

Very outdated and of no progressive political importance.

As a latin american, catholic insider, this may be the last area where one might expect to see change.

[struggle4progress]

12. That's true, too: sexual reproduction produces individual genetic variability more quickly

than asexual reproduction and therefore can enhance the overall probability for survival of offspring.

[LostOne4Ever]

13. Depends on the type of asexual reproduction you are describing.

[Humanist_Activist]

14. What are you talking about? And how does it relate to the thread subject?

Can you be any clearer?