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Bible Least Read Book By The Religious Right (Original Post) libodem Aug 2015 OP
Yeah, they're using it like a good luck talisman, pure idolatry Warpy Aug 2015 #1
Spot on, Warpy libodem Aug 2015 #5
The new Twitter version is very popular Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #2
There is no love libodem Aug 2015 #6
I suppose if we added a few books to it, Maedhros Aug 2015 #3
They olny pick the verses libodem Aug 2015 #7
ALL believers do that, regardless of political affiliation. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #9
So do you. rug Aug 2015 #11
What's really amusing is when they pick bible verses to throw at yiu cleanhippie Aug 2015 #24
I just started reading a book titled "the age of selfishness " by Darryl Cunningham kimbutgar Aug 2015 #28
Highly misleading headline. trotsky Aug 2015 #4
You may be right libodem Aug 2015 #8
True, but that would be for Christians in general. trotsky Aug 2015 #10
Maybe it's just the hypocrisy libodem Aug 2015 #12
More hateful than Jesus? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2015 #15
Like fake Christians to you. trotsky Aug 2015 #16
Just to make it easy for them. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #13
That doesn't surprise me. Their attitudes are contrary to Jesus's teachings. (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #14
In your opinion, of course. n/t trotsky Aug 2015 #17
! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #18
No. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2015 #19
Facts are meaningless, AoR! cleanhippie Aug 2015 #20
Are you using replacement ref's? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #21
I don't think you know what an "ad hominem" is. trotsky Aug 2015 #22
Lol. +1! cleanhippie Aug 2015 #25
?? Lordquinton Aug 2015 #23
Gosh, if only the Bible didn't say things like this: UrbScotty Aug 2015 #26
And then it says things like: trotsky Aug 2015 #27
Context is a good thing UrbScotty Aug 2015 #29
LOL, I do love the way you are misusing those ref fallacy memes. Too funny! trotsky Aug 2015 #30
Using and misusing are different words with different meanings. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #31
"I don't explain Bible quotes to anti-religious people for the same reason I don't explain policy to Act_of_Reparation Aug 2015 #32
I'd challenge anyone to a real-world debate. :-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #33
Do you have an Ed Hochuli pic for a non-sequitur? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2015 #36
!! trotsky Aug 2015 #38
"I've never seen any actual proof of religion's supposed role in (bad things)" trotsky Aug 2015 #34
LOL! Can't even tell me ONE bad thing done by religion? UrbScotty Aug 2015 #35
Nope, just twelve to start. trotsky Aug 2015 #37
If only any of them were actually caused directly by religion. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #39
So the Jewish tradition of circumcision is at best only indirectly related to Judaism. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2015 #40
I stand in awe of your amazing debate prowess. trotsky Aug 2015 #44
You can't name one good thing Lordquinton Aug 2015 #41
'Do as I say, not as I do'. Isn't that from from the bible? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #42
I tend to agree. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #43

Warpy

(111,368 posts)
1. Yeah, they're using it like a good luck talisman, pure idolatry
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:38 PM
Aug 2015

while the preacher carefully chooses which words in it to use in his sermons. Those words invariably instruct them on whom to hate.

I think we've all noticed this.

Reading it? No way.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. The new Twitter version is very popular
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:38 PM
Aug 2015

I hear it's a cool app with favorite passages like:

"For the LORD takes delight in his people; he crowns the #Trump with victory."


 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
3. I suppose if we added a few books to it,
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:08 PM
Aug 2015

like the First and Second Letters of Rand to the Americans, then they might read it more.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
11. So do you.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

Let's test that.

You love to quote Leviticus. What do you say about 19:18?

Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
24. What's really amusing is when they pick bible verses to throw at yiu
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:57 PM
Aug 2015

In order to make some kind of point, not realizing that they are doing the very thing we're talking about.

What dolts.

kimbutgar

(21,219 posts)
28. I just started reading a book titled "the age of selfishness " by Darryl Cunningham
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 03:33 PM
Aug 2015

It is a book written in cartoon form, details the life of Ayn Rand and her influence on today's political system here and in Great Britain.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. Highly misleading headline.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

Makes you think some kind of survey was done, when that is not true.

It's just one guy upset that the right-wing Christians follow the verses he ignores, and vice-versa.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
12. Maybe it's just the hypocrisy
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:00 PM
Aug 2015

Of making a spectacle of their religiosity, in public, for all to see. They just seem like fake Christians to me. Huckabee and Santotum just don't seem very Christ like. They seem hateful and judgemental especially about the needy or downtrodden.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
15. More hateful than Jesus?
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:55 PM
Aug 2015

The guy who said there's a big furnace downstairs for any and all who reject him?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
16. Like fake Christians to you.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:31 AM
Aug 2015

And liberal Christians look like fake Christians to them.

Until all religious people can get past this "they aren't true XXX" nonsense, we aren't going to make any progress.

safeinOhio

(32,733 posts)
13. Just to make it easy for them.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:17 PM
Aug 2015

They should pick up a Red Letter Bible. All the words of Christ are in red, so they can just skip the bull shit.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
19. No.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:40 PM
Aug 2015

An ad hominem is an a counter-argument directed at the person making an argument rather than the argument itself. Trotsky didn't do that. He pointed out that your argument is a matter of opinion, not established fact.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
26. Gosh, if only the Bible didn't say things like this:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015
The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me. - Matthew 25:40


Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” - Matthew 19:24


I could go on, but those verses make it pretty tough both for those who try to espouse a right-wing view of the Bible and for those who want us to doubt that religion can do any good.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
27. And then it says things like:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - Luke 19:27

Oh wait, you have neat little explanations for why those verses don't mean what they appear to mean, don't you? JUST LIKE THEY DO.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
29. Context is a good thing
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:00 PM
Aug 2015


Religion does good things. I know it's hard for some people to accept this, but religion does good things!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
30. LOL, I do love the way you are misusing those ref fallacy memes. Too funny!
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:11 PM
Aug 2015

What's to keep them from looking at your quotes and saying "context is a good thing" back to you? I notice how you didn't actually *explain* any of those bible quotes. Why is that?

Religion does bad things, too. I know it's hard for some people to accept that, but religion does bad things!

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
31. Using and misusing are different words with different meanings.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

I don't explain Bible quotes to anti-religious people for the same reason I don't explain policy to the tea party: I have better things to do with my precious time.

Over the years I've seen people make many hyperbolic claims about the bad things supposedly done by religion. I've never seen any actual proof of religion's supposed role in the same - just empty rhetoric.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
32. "I don't explain Bible quotes to anti-religious people for the same reason I don't explain policy to
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:34 PM
Aug 2015

...the tea party."

Because you suck at debate?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
34. "I've never seen any actual proof of religion's supposed role in (bad things)"
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

Wow.

There is no point in further discussion with you. I don't try and explain things to people who insist the world is black-and-white. I have better things to do with my precious time.

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