Yet another reason why science and religion are not compatable.

[cleanhippie]

Science is cosmtantly looking for errors, to be proven wrong. And when an instance of being wrong is found, science relishes in that. Reigi on, otoh, seeks to be confirmed and proven right, in the basis of faith. The exact opposite of science.

Don't believe me? Then why are scientists the world over so exited that one of its greatest pillars of knowledge may be about to crumble?

http://www.iflscience.com/physics/we-are-one-edge-discovery-brand-new-physics

[Rass]

1. They are two different philosophies

One claims to already know everything(religion) while the other encourages exploration and learning(science). People that try to mix religion and science together are absolutely clueless.

[cleanhippie]

2. Perfect.

[jonno99]

3. "One claims to already know everything(religion)". Sorry, I missed this one. Who makes this claim?

"the other encourages exploration and learning(science)"

Again, can you point to any mainstream "religious person" who has discouraged "exploration and learning".

[Rass]

5. Just read the most popular holty book for example

* God created everything in x amount of days. - That settles it, we don't have to look further.

*If you believe in an afterlife you less likely to seek the biological recipe to immortality or life-extension. -Encourages ignorance.

*If you believe that god is going to take care of everything, you are less likely to work towards making the world a better place for future generations. -Earth version 2.0 awaits you so why care?

*For some religious people; god doesn't like us to explore space since it is his domain. -Superstitious belief is self-limiting.

*The world of ghosts and demons should scare everyone into following god. -Belief is more important than objective observation. Anti-science.

*Everything in the bible is true, even talking donkies (Numbers 22:28). Have faith! -Attaining practical knowledge with faith is like absorbing information from books by eating their pages.

*Questioning the holy book will send you straight to hell. -Anti-knowledge, fear and superstition discourages exploration.

Science requires you to be humble and accept the likely possibility that you know nothing. It also makes you realize that whole groups of people can be wrong on certain topics. Everything can be questioned and tested. Religion claims to be the ultimate authority on everything. From this perspective, any true scientific knowledge gained is often warped to fit the preconceived notions about the world. This warped view of reality is a hindrance to asking the right questions and getting at the truth.

[jonno99]

6. Sorry - I can see that you'd like this idea to be true, but line by line, you have simply

created a squad of straw men.

[Rass]

7. Based on life experience

I was once religious many years ago and then I woke up. There are many people that live this way. In fear of invisible supernatural beings and considering themselves superior to everyone else (god's chosen). It is an unfortunate way to live life. They often waste their life on frivolous things while expecting Earth version 2.0. Faith doesn't need reason.

[jonno99]

8. Well, if your religion was anything like your straw men, I can see why you found it unsatisfactory.

I wouldn't want to live that way either...

[trotsky]

9. Did your god create the universe? n/t

[rug]

10. Oh, this is good.

Explain whether that's a non sequitur or simply a diversion.

[Rass]

11. Comfort

Religion can be more comforting than cold hard science, I get that. The main problem is that, it breeds ignorance of the natural world. No one likes the idea of their final end but religion only brings false hope. I would rather know the true recipe to immortality than believe it. Belief means waiting to see if you wake up after death. Then, it is too late. If you desire immortality, a pro-active response to curing the aging disease is more practical than waiting for it to kill you.

Many religions around the world make promises of immortality or immortality through reincarnation. This is false superstitious knowledge and it is anti-science.

[jonno99]

12. I don't disagree with what you wrote. However, I would add some simple modifiers:

...the main problem is that, it can breed ignorance...
...but religion can bring false hope...

Otherwise, you risk painting with too broad a brush, as there are myriad religious folk in the sciences would would disagree with your assertions...

[Rass]

13. Agreed

Thanks, you are right. Nothing is absolute.

[Iggo]

4. .

[stone space]

14. I don't see the connection. I clicked on the link and couldn't find any reference to religion.

Yet another reason why science and religion are not compatable.

No claim of incompatibility was even mentioned there.

It just seems to be a random internet link, with no relation to the OP.

[cleanhippie]

15. I didn't expect that everyone would get it.

That's ok, you don't need to get it.

[stone space]

16. Guns are your religion, not mine.

There's a new gun thread in GD, though. Go get 'em cowboy!

But you do point out a fundamental incompatibility between science and religion with this comment, unlike your OP.

At least, some religious folks are actually claiming an incompatibility, unlike the article in the OP, where no such incompatibility is even claimed by anybody.

Faith groups in Geneva issue interfaith statement: urgent action toward nuclear weapons abolition

May 9, 2016

On May 2, a group of diverse faith-based organizations issued a powerful interfaith statement highlighting the moral and ethical imperatives for the abolition of nuclear weapons, to mark the second session of the 2016 UN Open-ended Working Group taking forward multilateral nuclear disarmament negotiations (OEWG) being held in Geneva between May 2 and 13.

The statement reads: “Nuclear weapons are incompatible with the values upheld by our respective faith traditions—the right of people to live in security and dignity; the commands of conscience and justice; the duty to protect the vulnerable and to exercise the stewardship that will safeguard the planet for future generations.”

The statement, which was presented to OEWG Chair Ambassador Thani Thongphakdi of Thailand on May 3, urges the working group to focus on the humanitarian impact of nuclear weapons, for all states to participate in nuclear disarmament efforts in good faith, and the early adoption of a legal framework that will facilitate the prohibition and elimination of nuclear weapons under strict international control.

PAX, the Soka Gakkai International (SGI) Buddhist association and the World Council of Churches (WCC) took the lead in drafting the statement, which is titled “Faith Communities Concerned about the Humanitarian Consequences of Nuclear Weapons.”

http://religionnews.com/2016/05/09/faith-groups-in-geneva-issue-interfaith-statement-calling-for-urgent-action-toward-nuclear-weapons-abolition/

[cleanhippie]

18. Like I said, not very one gets it.

And you don't get it. Again.


You have a nice day now, ya hear?

[stone space]

19. Aparently, the author of the article you posted in the OP didn't get it, either.

Like I said, not very one gets it.

And you don't get it. Again.

There's got to be some explanation for why it wasn't even mentioned.

[cleanhippie]

20. Sorry, don't know what to tell you.

Perhaps it's best if you stuck to your guns, I mean stuck to your gun obsession. Surely there's a smiley that you find offensive and want everyone to know about, amirite?



Respond if you have to, I'm done with you.

[stone space]

21. Actually, it was you who injected guns into this thread, not me.

Perhaps it's best if you stuck to your guns, I mean stuck to your gun obsession. Surely there's a smiley that you find offensive and want everyone to know about, amirite?

In both this post and the one (your post #15 above) that you edited above to hide the evidence after I copied it.

[struggle4progress]

17. Ain't Got Time To Die