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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:40 AM May 2016

The ‘God Gap’ Closes: 2016 Could Shatter the Myth that Religious Equals Conservative

Hillary Clinton is leading the Democratic Party’s best chance in a generation to upend the myth that religious equals conservative.

By Katie Paris
May 17, 2016

From Slate:

The so-called God gap, shorthand for the longstanding Republican advantage among the religious, was just 15 points at the end of April, with weekly churchgoers preferring Trump by 9 points and less religious voters preferring Clinton by nearly 6. In 2012, the number of points separating Mitt Romney and Barack Obama was almost 40.

With six months until the election, Hillary is running almost even among people who attend church regularly:



Among those who say religion is important in their life, she’s doing even better:



This news is heartening to me as a Christian Democrat. And it’s politically significant for states with a lot of religious people — like Georgia (where I was born) and North Carolina (where I was raised).

https://bluenationreview.com/2016-could-shatter-the-myth-that-religious-equals-conservative/
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The ‘God Gap’ Closes: 2016 Could Shatter the Myth that Religious Equals Conservative (Original Post) rug May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #1
A narrative is not a fact, it's a talking point. rug May 2016 #2
Conclusion Cartoonist May 2016 #3
Obama is a Christian. rug May 2016 #4
Doesn't matter Cartoonist May 2016 #8
"Religion is racist." rug May 2016 #10
Nothing is absolute Cartoonist May 2016 #11
That 40 point gap is dubious. rug May 2016 #12
Simplify Cartoonist May 2016 #13
That's simplistic not simplified. rug May 2016 #14
When you go to church and they tell you that you can't be a Christain if you vote Democrat then... liberal N proud May 2016 #5
Which church? rug May 2016 #6
It was a Christian Church liberal N proud May 2016 #7
There were a few times in the Scranton diocese that I walked out. rug May 2016 #9
Well, Hillary's "favorite book" is the Bible... AlbertCat May 2016 #15

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Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
3. Conclusion
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:41 AM
May 2016

In 2012, the number of points separating Mitt Romney and Barack Obama was almost 40
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Religion is racist.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
10. "Religion is racist."
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

"Obama is a Christian."

"Doesn't matter."

Ergo, Obama is a racist?

A fucked up syllogism. You're missing quite a few steps.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
11. Nothing is absolute
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

There are some Xians who are not racist. I speak in generalities. That 40 point gap is telling.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
12. That 40 point gap is dubious.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016


It existed only within white evangelicals.

Catholics voted for Obama 50 - 48.

Jewish voters went 78 - 21 for Obama.

Other faiths voted 74 - 23.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
13. Simplify
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

When given a choice between a white guy and a black guy, religion goes with the white guy.

When the choice is a white guy or a white woman, religion is less misogynistic than racist.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
5. When you go to church and they tell you that you can't be a Christain if you vote Democrat then...
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:15 AM
May 2016

its not a myth.

When they start preaching from the pulpit, its not a myth.

I can honestly say, I have experienced this and have not been back to church since.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
7. It was a Christian Church
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:21 AM
May 2016

An evangelical church that claims to be non-denominational.

We had been going there for many years.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
9. There were a few times in the Scranton diocese that I walked out.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

The bishop was Martino who was, and is, very conservative. Usually around election time, instead of a sermon, the priest would roll a TV into the middle of the church and play a required 10 minte video of Martino's head preaching what values Catholics should consider before voting. He always stopped short of naming a party or a candidate but it was obvious. He retired early under unstated circumstances..

Everytime they did that, we got up and walked out. We always came back though. My kids started to look forward to it. "Are we walking out today?"

That church is much bigger than most of its small-minded leaders.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
15. Well, Hillary's "favorite book" is the Bible...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

.... so she says.

Of course she's as conservative as Reagan.... only more wishy-washy.

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