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Related: About this forumDüsseldorf: migrants burn their shelter over observance of Ramadan
It would appear one group didn't wake up another on time for the first prayer of the day.
A sin apparently so great it called for the burning of a building.
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Police say Düsseldorf fire might be related to a dispute over the observation of Ramadan
BERLINTwo residents at a refugee shelter in Düsseldorf are being held on suspicion of starting a fire that left the building in ruins this week, a city prosecutor said Wednesday.
The two 26-year-old men from North Africa were in police custody and waiting Wednesday night to face a judge, who would decide whether to prolong their incarceration with charges pending, a spokeswoman for the local police said.
The blaze that left the shelter, a former exhibition hall on the citys trade fair grounds that was home to about 220 residents, a mess of ash and rubble likely started when a mattress was set on fire Tuesday, investigators said while cautioning their work was complex.
While it was too early to establish a motive for the suspected arson, police said it might be related to a simmering dispute in the shelter over the observation of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which began Monday.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/german-police-hold-two-men-on-suspicion-of-starting-shelter-fire-1465407168
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)That's what religion is.
The time has come for a summit between all nations to put an end to all this BS. Even if the fire was accidental and unrelated to religion, we can't go on with this tension due to make-believe nonsense.
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)The Islamic Conference has worked long and hard to get a universal ban on blasphemy
Defamation of religion and the United Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_of_religion_and_the_United_Nations
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)In 2011, with falling support for the defamation of religion approach, the OIC changed their approach and introduced a new resolution on "Combating intolerance, negative stereotyping and stigmatization of, and discrimination, incitement to violence and violence against, persons based on religion or belief"
Wouldn't that end all laws against apostasy?
As for a summit, I don't necessarily expect agreement, I just want an open discussion at high levels to put an end to this BS, not some chatter in the U.N.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam
That allows a government like Saudi Arabia to say that any public claim that any other religion is valid, or that atheism is valid, is an attempt to convert someone, and thus illegal.
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)If so, one would expect a bit more resolute police response in Egypt, Pakistan, Bangladesh, when mobs lynch people on 'religious' grounds (atheists, gays, eloping maidens,..)
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)Albertoo
(2,016 posts)In police terms, 'might' means very indication points to that so far.
If not, the police just won't comment.
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)with the lunch. The culprits, who reportedly dont observe the Muslim ritual of fasting during the month of Ramadan, had complained about the meager meal portions. The small portions appear to be the motive ...
German lawmaker calls for easier deportation
09.06.2016
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)'Ramadan row' behind fire at Düsseldorf refugee shelter
http://www.thelocal.de/20160609/ramadan-row-behind-fire-at-dsseldorf-refugee-shelter
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)on the usual timetables and usual servings ... This had led on several occasions to disputes and altercations with officials of the German Red Cross" ... from your link
This might, of course, be entirely consistent with what was in my link: namely, that several people (who perhaps didn't celebrate Ramadan) were upset with small portions
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)In short, people have been burning a real building over an incoherent, contradictory book full of factual mistakes which was team-written some 1400 years ago.
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)to his mattress in protest against the accommodation ...
Two arrested following $11m arson attack at Dusseldorf Messe
JUN 09, 2016
BY TOM HALL
Igel
(35,282 posts)The morning prayer is at dawn.
Fasting begins at dawn, so the start of the prayer is pretty much the start of fasting. No food for you until the call for evening prayer.
Around Xmas, not such a big deal, even for worshipers of food. Short days. Cool days. But around the summer solstice, ugh. Those who really can't do without their rations, well, I can see how they'd be really POed.
(Day of Atonement, of course, is harder. Still, sometimes it's later and cooler and sometimes I've sweated without AC with temps in the upper 80s or low 90s for the sun to set.)
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Sigh.