Religion
Related: About this forumOn the prevalence and "normalcy" of indoctrinating children in religion
A nice summary of the common defenses I see to religious indoctrination of children, a practice so widespread that many see it as completely normal.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Too many lies. Religion has been going on since the caves. Of course it is normal. As is atheism. I don't like people pushing religion on me, I also don't appreciate people trying to otherize religious people. I prefer to work on getting religion out of politics and shit but have no issues with personal beliefs or systems of belief. Why should I? I don't believe it so pfftt, it's bullshit and always will be. I have not bothered to teach my kids about religion but my youngest swears she is a christian.
Cartoonist
(7,314 posts)So that's why it's accepted. I think school should teach alternatives so that they could be free to make up their own minds. I think that would meet with major opposition by the indoctrinators.
SCantiGOP
(13,868 posts)Studies have shown one very strong common trait among members of hard-core cults - the type where members surrender all their worldly possessions to the group. The trait is that they were never exposed to religion as a child. Then, in their late teens, as they are trying to understand who they are and where they fit in the cosmos, they discover a mystical philosophy that has an answer to every question and welcomes them into a loving family.
I was lucky I guess. I had Catholicism crammed down by throat by the nuns and had given up religion for good by the time I was 16.
rug
(82,333 posts)Jugendfeier am 29. März 1959 in der Niedersachsenhalle in Hannover
MellowDem
(5,018 posts)to convince children of beliefs is in the wrong. Religion seems to be where it is most normalized.
rug
(82,333 posts)The video way oversimplifies and skews the phenomenon. Ironically, because it itself is pushing a predigested viewpoint. Propaganda is a millimeter apart from indoctrination.
MellowDem
(5,018 posts)You mean a thought out opinion? Weird doublespeak. What is ironic about that?
How does it oversimplify and skew the "phenomena" of religious indoctrination?
rug
(82,333 posts)Religious belief lacks critical thinking.
6:50 - 8:55. Children taught religion will be abducted and nailed to a shed.
"Predigested viewpoint" is a generous description.
MellowDem
(5,018 posts)The political party analogy was to show how society would think that is wrong, but doesn't for religion. It's showing a double standard. The child abduction story was specifically refuting how just because parents believe they are doing what's best, doesn't mean it's moral or right, not implying children taught religion will be nailed to a shed. You're being more than intentionally obtuse.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Bingo.
When defending religion from criticism, anything goes.
rug
(82,333 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Watch it again, maybe this time with some critical thinking.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)Cartoonist
(7,314 posts)seeing as how it is made up bullshit.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)is just "made-up bullshit"
But I think that it from this single point that I must choose not to be moved
My dispute is really not with those who disagree with my theology or even with those who say there is no G-d: rather, it is with those who do not believe that the One True Light shines in the view that we are all sisters and brothers, or who claim that our love, for those we meet in our ordinary lives, is the one feature that essentially distinguishes us from dull clods of clay
Cartoonist
(7,314 posts)I'm Okay with fictitious fables, but please don't insult our intelligence by presenting them as factual like you just did.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)on whether the story is -- or is not -- demonstrable as historical fact
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I'd like to while teaching my kids (Goddess forbid) what I believe, encourage them to keep an open mind as to what they want to believe in when they're old enough to understand it. Does this run counter to your belief, do you believe this is even a possibility? I personally believe religious indoctrination isn't exactly a conscious decision for most, but just... Families continuing to do what they do, I was taken to church every Sunday because my mother went to church every Sunday while my stepfather was out at work-- not like she had the money to hire a babysitter.