VP Joe Biden Calls Trump's Alleged Behavior a 'Cardinal Sin'

[stone space]

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Biden went on to explain his work in combating sexual assault over his career and why he is so passionate about Trump’s comments, which he made without, apparently, knowing he was being recorded.

“My dad used to say the greatest sin of all is abuse of power, and the cardinal sin of all is a man raising his hand or taking advantage of a woman,” Biden said. “And here’s a guy who says, ‘I’m a star … so I can go in, intimidate women into allowing me to assault them and assume they’re not going to say anything.’ That is the ultimate abuse of power, and I don’t understand how anyone can remotely justify that.”

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vp-joe-biden-calls-trumps-alleged-behavior-cardinal/story?id=42771735

[WheelWalker]

1. I agree with you, Joe.

[Moostache]

2. Me too...I stand with Biden on damn near everything.

When it comes to taking Trump to task for stupidity, Biden is in a class of his own...

[trotsky]

3. And millions of other Catholics, including the entire church leadership...

considers abortion, or the support of keeping it legal, to be a cardinal sin as well.

We can all agree Drumpf is a Grade A shitbag. We don't need any religion to tell us that.

[stone space]

4. I think that those on the religious right have to honestly ask themselves a simple question.

Who would Jesus grope?

[trotsky]

5. You should go find out what their answer is, since you're so curious about it.

You aren't going to find many of them here, as muriel_volestrangler so adeptly schooled you in your other thread.

[stone space]

6. Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand.

Does that help?

[trotsky]

7. Nope, because I can't answer that question, as I explained to you.

The people want to ask aren't on DU. Go find them.

[stone space]

8. Why are you so nasty?

Did you wake up in a bad mood this morning?

[trotsky]

9. Could you explain what exactly you found "nasty" about my response?

Please be precise. I'll happily apologize when you have identified my transgression.

[stone space]

10. You don't have to answer. It's no big deal.

carry on!

[trotsky]

11. Really? It was a big enough deal for you to call me out on it.

Seems odd that now you don't think it matters.

Perhaps you could apologize. Especially since you also insulted my intelligence by saying you would try to communicate with me in "a way that (I) might understand."

[stone space]

12. Not worth my time. I was just curious, that's all. No big deal.

carry on!

[trotsky]

13. Not worth your time to apologize for implying I'm dim?

Alrighty then. I guess the question you should answer is: Who would Jesus insult?

[stone space]

14. Oh, good Lord!

[trotsky]

15. What's the matter?

Do you think it is unreasonable of me to ask for an apology from someone who has insulted me?

Or are you upset by the question of Who would Jesus insult?

[stone space]

16. calm down, trotsky...no need to go on and on

[trotsky]

17. Why not?

Isn't apologizing when you've insulted someone a good thing?

Who would Jesus insult, stone space?

[stone space]

18. you seem obsessed

[trotsky]

19. Naw, I've drawn this out long enough to show exactly what I wanted to.

Feel free to have your last word.

If you want, it can be the answer to the question:

Who would Jesus insult?

[Lordquinton]

20. Here it is in a way you can understand

That help?

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. Here's an idea: since you have a userid on Discussionist, and it's not currently suspended,

why don't you go there and post your question, since you would have actual members of the Religious Right to talk to there? That was the point of that website - to have a place where the left and right can interact.

[stone space]

22. Damn! I need to get my star back. I'm seeing ads for other websites, here.

Here's an idea: since you have a userid on Discussionist, and it's not currently suspended,

why don't you go there and post your question, since you would have actual members of the Religious Right to talk to there? That was the point of that website - to have a place where the left and right can interact.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. Replies like that are why no one takes you seriously.

You're admitting you don't want anyone to actually answer your 'question', either by you actually asking the religious right about it, or by discussing what we on the left think those on the right are like, as happened in the other thread. But you just goof around, and use your meme to derail your own thread, now.

You're making your own threads toxic. No one's going to reply to threads that might have an OP worth responding to, like this one was, if you're going to piss around and do a Bart Simpson impression in return.

[stone space]

24. Do you have anything besides personal insults and commercial spam for other websites?

There's no need to stalk anybody all around the internet. I'm right here.

Replies like that are why no one takes you seriously.

You're admitting you don't want anyone to actually answer your 'question', either by you actually asking the religious right about it, or by discussing what we on the left think those on the right are like, as happened in the other thread. But you just goof around, and use your meme to derail your own thread, now.

You're making your own threads toxic. No one's going to reply to threads that might have an OP worth responding to, like this one was, if you're going to piss around and do a Bart Simpson impression in return.

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. It's criticism, not insults. And you know very well Discussionist is run by the DU admins

But, for you, no, that's pretty much the only thing worth aiming at you. You are stubbornly determined to not discuss anything.

[stone space]

26. Why are you here if you believe that personal insults are the only things worth posting?

It's criticism, not insults. And you know very well Discussionist is run by the DU admins

But, for you, no, that's pretty much the only thing worth aiming at you. You are stubbornly determined to not discuss anything.

Aren't there other websites where personal insults are encouraged rather than discouraged?

You seem to have a preference for those other websites. You are certainly free to post at them, but why drag that garbage and filth here to DU?

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. It's criticism, not insults.

And I'm not 'stalking you' by replying to you (in a thread you started, what's more) on DU, talking about your posts (specifically, a post you made in another thread, and then inserted here for no good reason). Replying to you is 'discussion', not stalking.

[stone space]

28. LOL!

It's criticism, not insults.

[raging moderate]

29. Hey, guys! Stone Space did not call out Trotsky.

Trotsky called out Stone Space.

Stone Space was quoting Joe Biden, a longtime champion for women's rights. And Stone Space wrote this OP to support women's rights.

Stone Space did not insult anyone.

[trotsky]

30. Hi there, raging moderate.

Could you do me a favor?

Could you please explain what you think the phrase "call out" means, and then point out exactly how my post "called out" stone space?

And then, if you wouldn't mind, please explain how saying to someone "Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand." followed by posting a silly homemade meme is a respectful form of discourse.

Thanks so much!

[rug]

31. He doesn't have to. He 's already made an astute observation.

[stone space]

33. Sometimes, a simple favor can result in a very, very long thread.

Could you do me a favor?

(1): Could you please explain what you think the phrase "call out" means,

(2): and then point out exactly how my post "called out" stone space?

(3): And then, if you wouldn't mind, please explain how saying to someone "Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand."

(4): followed by posting a silly homemade meme is a respectful form of discourse.

Thanks so much!

If my count is correct, you are requesting 4 detailed posts.



Is it safe to assume that you would then be responding to each of those 4 posts, and that each of your responses would include demands for more precise explanations in a series of posts?

[trotsky]

34. My post could easily be answered in a single reply.

Not to mention that I have no idea why you think 3 & 4 would be separate responses. Together they are a summary of the insult that you directed at me. I would like your friend here to explain how it was respectful discourse.

Who would Jesus insult?

[stone space]

35. OK. Have a nice day!

My post could easily be answered in a single reply.

Not to mention that I have no idea why you think 3 & 4 would be separate responses. Together they are a summary of the insult that you directed at me. I would like your friend here to explain how it was respectful discourse.

[muriel_volestrangler]

32. Hey, guy, trotsky replied with a post about cardinal sins

(the topic of the OP, especially since this is the Religion forum, so it's the religious part of what Biden said we should concentrate on). stone space then responded with a off-topic quote of himself from another thread. trotsky pointed out his posts had been a waste of everyone's time in that thread, and then came stone space's "in a way that you might understand" remark, which was mildly rude.

trotsky did not call out anyone. stone space did not call out anyone, though he was a little bit rude.

On edit: ah, I'd forgotten that stone space later called trotsky 'nasty', and trotsky termed that "calling out". While I might quibble whether that fits the exact definition of "calling out", it's certainly insulting, wouldn't you agree?