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rug

(82,333 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:58 AM Dec 2016

What does an agnostic atheist believe?

“Humans don’t know shit from shit in the grand scheme of things,” Kelly Baron says.



"I'm excited by all the things I'm going to die not knowing," Baron says.

Chicagoans is a first-person account from off the beaten track, as told to Anne Ford. This week's Chicagoan is Kelly Baron, 27, "agnostic atheist."

By Anne Ford
December 28, 2016

My mother joined Scientology when she was 15 or 16. She was a really innocent young woman who was not part of the 1960s drugs-and-alcohol culture. I think part of her felt alienated because of that, and that attracted her to Scientology; it was a way to feel included.

When she was 29 or 30, she met my dad, who is very, very much a questioner and an atheist. She introduced him to a couple of Scientologists, and they labeled him an SP—a suppressive person, basically an enemy—and they told my mom, "You should not interact with this guy," and she was like, "OK, peace, see you later," and she left Scientology.

Since then, Scientologists have come to our house. They call my dad. They've called me. I think they've sent my mom four pieces of mail every single day I've been alive. I'm surprised environmental agencies don't get on their ass about how much paper they're wasting, let alone what they're doing to people's psyches.

Anyway, I grew up in a godless household. Once, when I was probably four, my cousin, who's nine years older, took me in her arms and showed me a picture. She said, "This is a man named Jesus, and he lives way up in the sky. He sees everything we do, and he's here to protect us, and he loves us no matter what." I worshipped my cousin, so I was like, "Whoa!"

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/kelly-baron-agnostic-atheist-religion-theology-jesus-christianity-afterlife/Content?oid=24833106

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What does an agnostic atheist believe? (Original Post) rug Dec 2016 OP
Funny 1965Comet Dec 2016 #1
She ratted her cousin out pretty quick. rug Dec 2016 #2
From many of the responses I have seen here, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3
That leaves the huge void surrounding what actually is known. rug Dec 2016 #4
True, but it is possible that many atheists guillaumeb Dec 2016 #5
Hope springs eternal. rug Dec 2016 #6
And charity. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #7
If only recycling canards was considered environmentally responsible. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #8
You hope that you will arrive safely. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #9
No I don't. If I only 'hoped' you couldn't drag me on to the plane. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #10
An agnostic atheist doesn't believe but allows that we may not know for sure. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #11
 

1965Comet

(175 posts)
1. Funny
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:02 AM
Dec 2016

"Anyway, I grew up in a godless household. Once, when I was probably four, my cousin, who's nine years older, took me in her arms and showed me a picture. She said, "This is a man named Jesus, and he lives way up in the sky. He sees everything we do, and he's here to protect us, and he loves us no matter what." I worshipped my cousin, so I was like, "Whoa!" "

I laughed when I read that last line, it's the same reaction my toddler had to learning about Santa!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. True, but it is possible that many atheists
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 01:31 PM
Dec 2016
believe that science will one day solve these mysteries.

Or these atheists might have faith that science will one day solve these mysteries.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. And charity.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

So in the spirit of charity, I will refrain from pointing out what my post about atheistic intolerance reveals.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. If only recycling canards was considered environmentally responsible.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 05:01 PM
Dec 2016

When I get in a plane, I 'believe' I will get safely to my destination because I understand how planes work, how they are designed, how the pilots are trained and winnowed through a qualification process, how the aircraft are maintained, what Mean Time Between Failures means and how it all facts into the probability I will achieve my destination, AND the realization that I might well not make my destination so, I have life insurance and a bunch of other contingencies.

So please stop conflating 'Belief' in supernatural gods, with 'belief' in 'this tomato I am about to eat will taste like a tomato'.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. You hope that you will arrive safely.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 05:44 PM
Dec 2016

And the odds favor a safe arrival.

Belief is used when talking about that which is not provable.

And I have eaten many out of season tomatoes that have minimal taste.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. No I don't. If I only 'hoped' you couldn't drag me on to the plane.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:26 PM
Dec 2016

yes thank you, out of season tomatoes taste like out of season tomatoes. Not a tricycle, or a bear, or a meteorite.

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