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rug

(82,333 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:26 PM May 2017

Vatican hosts world's leading cosmologists to bring together faith and science

Conference set to take place May 9 to 12

https://i.cbc.ca/1.3045519.1457118518!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/ngc-2060-hubble-space-telescope-tarantula-nebula-april-17-2012.jpg

The Vatican has invited some of the world's top scientists to discuss black holes and other astronomical phenomena.

The Associated Press Posted: May 08, 2017 12:19 PM ET

The Vatican is celebrating the big-bang theory. That's not as out of this world as it sounds.

The Vatican Observatory has invited some of the world's leading scientists and cosmologists to talk black holes, gravitational waves and space-time singularities as it honours a Jesuit cosmologist considered one of the fathers of the idea that the universe began with a gigantic explosion.

The May 9-12 conference honouring Monsignor George Lemaitre is being held at the Vatican Observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891 to help correct the notion that the Roman Catholic Church was hostile to science. The perception has persisted in some circles since Galileo's heresy trial 400 years ago.

The head of the observatory, Brother Guy Consolmagno, says you can believe in both God and the big bang theory.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/vatican-hosts-world-s-leading-cosmologists-to-bring-together-faith-and-science-1.4104545

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Vatican hosts world's leading cosmologists to bring together faith and science (Original Post) rug May 2017 OP
Many folks are surprised to learn that the Vatican owns & operates a large facility in Arizona Get Off Of My Cloud May 2017 #1
I am surprised to learn that. rug May 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca May 2017 #3
Well duh... ExciteBike66 May 2017 #4
Maybe God makes sense as a great Black Hole... Bretton Garcia May 2017 #5
Does astronomy cause you to think of pederasty? rug May 2017 #6
Lemaitre, a priest and physicist or mathematician Bretton Garcia May 2017 #7
So, because he was a priest, his theory of the Big Bang was some Freudian projection of pederasty? rug May 2017 #8
Yes Bretton Garcia May 2017 #9
Utter nonsense. rug May 2017 #10
Wading? guillaumeb May 2017 #11
Anthropology confirms "origin myths" ... Bretton Garcia May 2017 #13
The "odd preoccupation of priests"? guillaumeb May 2017 #12

Response to rug (Original post)

ExciteBike66

(2,280 posts)
4. Well duh...
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:01 PM
May 2017

"The head of the observatory, Brother Guy Consolmagno, says you can believe in both God and the big bang theory. "

Well, duh! Of course you can believe in both. You can also believe in weeping statuary...

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. Does astronomy cause you to think of pederasty?
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:04 AM
May 2017

Or does the mention of God cause you to make these bizarre comments?

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
7. Lemaitre, a priest and physicist or mathematician
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:52 AM
May 2017

.. based his idea of the Big Bang in part, on some suspiciously Freudian imagery, a "cosmic egg," or primal atom, and so forth.

And that's the problem with cosmologies. In general, they are all so very highly religuous/speculative, that they tend to be far more highly the projection of our inner psychology or cultural biases, than any actual objective knowledge.

It is said that in the case of LeMaitre, rightly Einstein said that his math was good, but his physics was "atrocious".

We might credit his interest in a primal explosion to his work as a Belgian artillery officer. And the rest to the odd preoccupations of priests.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. So, because he was a priest, his theory of the Big Bang was some Freudian projection of pederasty?
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:57 AM
May 2017

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
9. Yes
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

First 1), Le Maitre's need for any kind of origin myth or tale at all, is a typical religious need. Many others are simply content to suggest that the origin of the universe is probably unknowably complex.

So first of all, no origin tale us needed at all, for many of us. But religion desperately seeks reassurance and even assurances of certainty there

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
13. Anthropology confirms "origin myths" ...
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:15 AM
May 2017

In most cultures. They are considered to be religion, and myths.

More modern cultures, philosophies, don't bother with metaphysics, cosmology. Having found them so contradictory. And unprovable

Instead Existentialism for example, just concentrates on the far more knowable and immediate human condition.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. The "odd preoccupation of priests"?
Wed May 10, 2017, 07:22 PM
May 2017

Since you are apparently in analyst mode, please enlighten us as to what exactly that means.

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