Why do people believe Jesus preached from the Bible?

[dballance]

I find it alarming the number of people who think Jesus taught from the Bible and who think he was a "Christian."

Okay people. Here is the truth. Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi who most likely taught from the Torah (Old Testament to us modern day Christians) and other Jewish texts. He was not a "Christian" because such a thing did not exist yet.

And PUH-LEEZZE. "Christ" is NOT his last name. It is a title bestowed upon him by his followers. It means anointed one and generally refers to the high priest.

I am so sick of the big business of religion these days that captures the masses and makes so much money for the few. They will be happy to distort and do whatever to keep themselves in power. Much like the the money changers in the temple or even the priests in the temple Jesus was able to challenge at age 12 or so.

[intaglio]

1. and at the time "Chrestos" was more likely to refer to Osiris

... just saying

[Igel]

34. Yes, but khristos was just a good ol' past passive participle.

Back to 300 BC or more.

Used in the 70 as the (accurate) translation of the word we borrowed as "messiah."

[AnotherMcIntosh]

2. What evidence is there that there ever was a Jesus who ever read anything, or spoke, or anything?

[orpupilofnature57]

5. The same as George Washington.

[darkstar3]

7. Completely false.

We have many and varied contemporary accounts of all of the founding fathers, including Washington.

Where are the many and varied contemporary accounts for Jesus?

[orpupilofnature57]

26. Sorry 2000 yrs. it's a little

dicey , The church wasn't invented yet so he had access to 0.00 $ , unlike Rome who was also in charge of MSM ,I can't go to the library of congress ,but then again the ' Great Business plot ' reads completely different then it did before Shrub and that was only 13 yrs ago.It's a Belief I don't distort in to a factual tangible things ,hence living in a Free society enables me to " waste away " in my unsubstantiated Belief ,proof of a Free society.

[Iggo]

31. You can't say it's the same and then defend yourself by saying it's not the same.

Well, I guess you can.

[orpupilofnature57]

37. No I can't ,I'm wrong , Your Right.

Flimsy reasoning on my part.

[darkstar3]

32. So you admit that it's not the "same as George Washington."

Good to see.

[orpupilofnature57]

38. Yes ,bad example on my part.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

9. Nope. False equivalency.

In fact, it is even questionable that the Gospels were even written (or completely written) by the persons whose names are printed at the top of the pages of modern Bibles.

As stated by at least one biblical scholar, Bart Ehrman, "Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or James -- knowing full well they were someone else."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/the-bible-telling-lies-to_b_840301.html

[edhopper]

15. Could you please

give us the numerous contemporaneous writings, letters, signatures and portraits of Jesus that we have of George Washington.
Because i have not seen a single one.

[orpupilofnature57]

28. Socrates is only talked about ,over 2000 yrs

you believe he existed , I bet.

[edhopper]

29. Yes

And I think a man named Yeshua existed. Whether any of Plato's writings were an accurate expression of Socrates' philosophy, I wouldn't know. As I don't know if anything in the NT actually reflects anything Yeshua said or did.

What that has to do with comparing Jesus to George Washington is beyond me. Nice try at changing the subject from your silly statement.

[orpupilofnature57]

30. It was a silly statement , I admit

[edhopper]

33. You would have been better off

going with the Socrates comparison in the first place.

[orpupilofnature57]

36. Your Right, or maybe Buddha, his bio is also

Sketchy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

[patrice]

13. The Jesus Seminar

http://www.westarinstitute.org/Seminars/seminars.html

[dballance]

20. Oh my friend that is a question I'd like to tackle but thought better of it.

Why don't you start another thread and see what blinding, stinging crap arises from that question.

[cbayer]

3. Preached from the Bible? What does that mean?

[orpupilofnature57]

6. Ignorant fundie

[cbayer]

10. Are you calling me an ignorant fundie?

[orpupilofnature57]

11. NO NO NO !!!!

That only an ignorant fundie could really beleive that.

[cbayer]

12. Oh, thank goodness. I thought I had a brand new enemy!

[dballance]

22. If you don't understand what I meant then I'm sorry

Most everyone else seems to have understood quite clearly.

[CJCRANE]

4. He didn't just preach from it. He wrote it.

In the King's English.

[Starboard Tack]

8. Last time I checked, the Old Testament was in the Bible.

The idea that Jesus was a Christian is ridiculous, but most Christians are ignorant about history and the Bible. I have met several who don't think Catholics are Christian and others who don't consider anyone who is not "born again" a Christian. Sheep don't question much, but they make good followers.

I've always seen Jesus as a man, a shit stirrer, a revolutionary, a good man, a sage, a rabbi, but not a messiah and I doubt he ever claimed to be any more godlike or closer to God than anyone else. Christ has always meant Messiah to me and as I don't buy the whole god thing, there can be no messiah.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

14. Which version of the Old Testament?

[dimbear]

24. It's doubtful that very many Christians realize the Jewish scriptures weren't closed until after

the time of Jesus. In fact, they were closed to some extent to prevent the new Christian stuff from coming in.

The NT writers originally leaned mostly on the Septuagint, being more conversant in Greek than Hebrew. Later when Jerome made his official translation, he leaned on the Masoretic as being more weighty and official.

The NT writers also felt free to dip into the apocrypha, which is why nobody can truly understand Christianity without reading Enoch, Jubilees, and a few others. Once you have gone thru them you see where Christian ideas take their sources. In some cases. The so called intertestamental literature.

[orpupilofnature57]

27. And like ' Plato's Cave ' it came from

Socrates.

[Starboard Tack]

25. Take your pick

[edhopper]

16. And his name wasn't

Jesus. It was Yeshua.

Though his middle initial was "H".

[COLGATE4]

17. Was he ever on a crutch?

[NinetySix]

18. I've seen one account that portrays him in a sidecar...

Another version of the story has him situated on a cracker.

Still another, more apocryphal story is of him as a tap dancer.

[Permanut]

19. I happen to know that he preached in King James English..

and looked a lot like Charlton Heston. I saw it in a movie.

[xfundy]

23. Actually overheard, 20 years ago--

"If the KJV-1611 was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

[Lydia Leftcoast]

35. Not really latest breaking news

But the megachurches are not big on theological education.