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Related: About this forumOn the Creative Power of the Human Imagination
Human beings are capable of imagining things that do not actually exist. Even young children have the ability to create imaginary things without any prompting from adults. Many humans actually earn their livelihood by creating imaginary creatures, worlds and activities. Our imaginations are capable of amazing feats of creation.
Among the things created by the human mind are supernatural beings with extraordinary powers. From comic book superheros to fantastic animals like unicorns and dragons, we do it all the time. We have also, apparently, created a large number of deities. Too many to count, really, if you venture back into the couple of million years humans and their predecessors have lived on the planet.
Many such deities appear to have disappeared from human thinking. Deities that were once credited with creation, amazing powers and all sorts of other things have passed from memory or are treated as myths today. Still, there are hundreds of deities still worshiped, held in reverence, or feared by humans in various cultures.
Typically, the deities of one culture are held by members of that culture to be the only true deities. All others are considered to be false deities. For example, one-third of the world's population professes belief in a three-part trinity of deities, including God, Jesus, and a Holy Spirit. This belief includes the belief that all other deities are false and that only belief in that trinity of deities is correct.
The remaining two-thirds of the world's population does not agree. In fact, multiple other deities are imagined to be real and authentic by much of that remaining population. Depending on the culture, one or more of those deities is believed to be the real deity or deities. Other cultures' deities are considered to be false.
So, which deities are real, and which are figments of the imagination of others? How would one know? Deities have no demonstrable existence. There is no evidence available for the reality of any of them. What could explain the multiplicity of deities among human cultures? Why cannot all-powerful deities convince all humans of their exclusiveness?
The answer is in the first paragraph of this brief essay - the human imagination. Capable of creating all manner of fantastic things, it is certainly capable of creating as many deities as are useful to cultures. Even a superfluity of deities is easily imagined. The human imagination is also capable of assigning responsibilities to deities, writing historical and prescriptive stories about those imaginary deities, as well as creating entire systems for worshiping, propitiating and revering them.
The power of the human imagination is what is beyond understanding, perhaps.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)and Lord knows I have tried to find one, of why one person's faith is right when another person of equal faith is wrong.
And with most religions, they all can't be true.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)There is no logical problem with the second statement.
The imagination can create as many deities as there are functioning human brains. Perhaps there are actually that many deities, minus the number not created by atheists or incurious people.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)but to think that makes us ATHEISTS
Believers like other people to believe. "As long as you believe in something" it's all good.
Make sure your child has religion, who cares what, just get them indoctrinated, and so forth.
It's really amazing that they prefer someone who believes the opposite of them to someone without belief.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)For me, it's meaningless. I believe things to be true or that they are likely to be true or I do not. I'm not sure what it would mean if I said I "believe in" something.
For me "to believe in" means to believe something for which there is no evidence at all. I don't do that. I don't "believe in" the Theory of Evolution. I believe that it is the best explanation so far for speciation. I've seen no other evidence-supported explanation that makes sense. So, I believe that evolution explains how species came to be.
I try very hard to be precise in statements that include the word "believe." I am an atheist. I do not believe that any supernatural entities or events exist or occur. It's easy for me not to believe things for which there is no evidence.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)When talking about myself I say, "I don't accept the existence of any God".
Believers believe, non-believers don't have beliefs.
Iggo
(47,571 posts)That one's been working for me.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Or did you mean inoculated?
edhopper
(33,621 posts)indoctrinated is a fair description.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)American children are also indoctrinated when they learn US history.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)school does indoctrinate.
But not "revealing", simply accurate. Religious training IS indoctrination for most children.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and for what percent of children?
edhopper
(33,621 posts)I can only go by what I have experienced and what I know others have.
Going by that I would say most religions and most children.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I know what tactics I have observed among the tiny number of atheists here, but I would not generalize based on that tiny number about the overall group that are atheists.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)the experiences of atheists. Or just my upbringing. I am talking about the religious teachings I have observed and heard from othets.
Read about, seen in documentaries, on news reports, and so forth.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)They cannot prove it of course, but they can even insist, by their creative power, that their non-theistic imagining is superior to theism
edhopper
(33,621 posts)prove that something for which there is absolutely no evidence does not exist.
Your inability to understand this concept is remarkable.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And the fact that it has no provability. But non-theists insist that their particular non-provable contention is superior to the theistic contention.
As if simple denial is inherently superior to affirmation.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)of proof and evidence and when they are necessary.
These concepts go beyond just theism and atheism.
There is another thread here with a believer who doesn't understand this either.
It is an interesting failing of some believers.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Each is dependent on a choice.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)I don't choose not to have belief.
I see no evidence of the existence of any diety.
My atheism is very much a result of no evidence.
It's not a belief, not a choice, not because I am angry at God. It is a logical conclusion.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But most people come to a different conclusion.
edhopper
(33,621 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Think that's a factor?
Mariana
(14,861 posts)Sorry, no. It's not a voluntary thing. I certainly never decided to be an atheist. I can't will myself into believing something I don't believe, and I don't believe your creator exists. If some compelling evidence for its existence were to surface, then I would believe it. That wouldn't be voluntary, either.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Proof is not required, nor is it possible, either way.