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Related: About this forumThe 2 leaders of the fundamentalist takeover of the SoBaptConvention in big trouble
* Paul Pressler, a former TX judge, has been accused by several men that he sexually molested them when they were teens in his church groups. There are many recent articles stating that his actions were an open secret.
* Paige Patterson, president of the SBC's Soutwestern Seminary, is under fire for his appalling statements that abused wives should stay, submit, and pray for their husbands. These comments have been discussed for some time by women in the SBC. They have only recently reached a national audience.
Notknown nationally is Patterson's refusal to report to police the clams of several woman that an up and coming preacher (?Daryl Gillard) was molesting them. Paige refused to fire the preacher and sent him to a new church post without informing that congregation of the charges. The man continued to abuse women until finally someone reported him to the police. (Victims in SBC and similar churces are told NOT to report to the police. They are told the matter must be handled in house.)
He fired one of the best, if not THE best, Hebrew scholar in the SBC because she was a woman. In his Bible interpretation, women are NOT permitted to teach men. Even more 'damning' in his view, she interpreted Bible passages for herself. In Paige's view, women are to take men's view of the Bible, not read it on their own.
Finally, you will not believe this! Paige, his wife, Paul, and his wife have each been 'immortalized' for their role in the SBC takeover by having their stained glass portraits placed in the windows of the chapel at Southwestern Seminary.
[See many recent posts about these 2 at the blog thewartburgwatch.com.]
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)TomSlick
(11,097 posts)I would like to think that this will bring them down but I'm skeptical. The fundamentalists are the to the SBC what the Trumpsters are to the country. The fundamentalists will not look past the "necessity" of protecting the leaders.
msongs
(67,395 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But whatever fits the narrative, correct?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Neither is hindering prosecution of child rapists. So certainly no biblical reason Pressler can't be square with the holy zombie on this one.
Patterson doesn't have to repent either because he's just repeating what the bible says.
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
Of course, this is all just metaphorical and we can't take any of this literally, right?
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Never mind that many Protestant churches teach Paul more than Jesus, nor that selective reading of scripture is the right way to deal with issues.
Someone will tell you those things, I'm sure.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)If you still have your foreskin and/or you enjoy ham on Easter, you can thank Paul, not Jesus.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)in the Biblical Canon. He Romanized and gentilized Christianity, leading to its massive success in much of the world. Without Paul, early Christianity would likely have withered and died after a few centuries.
Thanks for the reminder.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Paul's skill was in bringing in funds from the rich Romans and Greeks, but in order to do so he had to find a loophole in the circumcision requirement. Few adults were going to risk death from infection or important bits falling off after such a procedure. So Paul just pretended the holy poltergeist whispered in his ear and told him He didn't care about foreskins anymore. Problem solved. The best part is Christians today get to eat ham while still self-righteously claiming homosexuality is a sin (even though the Talmud didn't say so). Thanks, Paul!
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Girard442
(6,070 posts)...has got a shit-ton of pervy skeletons in their own closet.
I don't think there are any exceptions to that.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)...when it's their people on the bench.