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Related: About this forumGarry Wills: The Priesthood of The Big Crazy
The grand jury report of Catholic priests predations in Pennsylvania is enough to make one vomit. The terrifying fact that hundreds of priests were preying upon over a thousand victims in that state alone makes one shudder at the thought of how many hundreds and thousands of abusers there are elsewhere in the nation, elsewhere in the world. It is time to stop waiting for more reports to accumulate, hoping that something will finally be done about this. Done by whom? By the church? If the church is taken to mean the pope and bishops, nothing will come of nothing. They are as a body incapable of making sense of anything sexual.
A wise man once told me that we humans are all at one time or another a little crazy on the subject of sex. A little crazy, yes. But Catholic priests are charged with maintaining The Big Crazy on sex all the time. These functionaries of the church are formally supposed to believe and preach sexual sillinesses, from gross denial to outright absurdity, on the broadest range of issuesmasturbation, artificial insemination, contraception, sex before marriage, oral sex, vasectomy, homosexuality, gender choice, abortion, divorce, priestly celibacy, male-only priestsand uphold the churchs doctrines, no matter how demented.
Some priests are humane or common-sensible enough to ignore some parts of this impossibly severe set of rules, which gives them reason to be selective about sexual matters. Since scripture says nothing about most of these subjects, popes have claimed a power to define natural law. But the nineteenth-century English theologian John Henry Newman was right when he said, The Pope, who comes of Revelation, has no jurisdiction over Nature. That would be true even if the natural law being invoked had some philosophical depth, but Catholics are asked to accept childish versions of natural law. For instance, since the natural use of sex is to beget children, any use apart from that is sinful, and mortally sinful. Masturbate and you go to hell (unless, of course, you confess the sin to a priest, which gives an ordained predator the chance to be comforting about masturbation).
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Priests are set apart, by celibacy, by sacramental powers. They are privileged, and they do not want to give up such influence. When dangers to their status come up, they must mute or minimize the dangers. After all, they do perform good work. Catholic charities are impressive. Priests cannot give people counsel and comfort if their position is compromised. This leads to a long-tacit bargain, a devils deal. If you do not challenge the priestly mystique, which bishops mean to use for good purposes, they will not reveal the vile treatment of boys. The priesthood itself is at stake.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/08/23/the-priesthood-of-the-big-crazy/
A wise man once told me that we humans are all at one time or another a little crazy on the subject of sex. A little crazy, yes. But Catholic priests are charged with maintaining The Big Crazy on sex all the time. These functionaries of the church are formally supposed to believe and preach sexual sillinesses, from gross denial to outright absurdity, on the broadest range of issuesmasturbation, artificial insemination, contraception, sex before marriage, oral sex, vasectomy, homosexuality, gender choice, abortion, divorce, priestly celibacy, male-only priestsand uphold the churchs doctrines, no matter how demented.
Some priests are humane or common-sensible enough to ignore some parts of this impossibly severe set of rules, which gives them reason to be selective about sexual matters. Since scripture says nothing about most of these subjects, popes have claimed a power to define natural law. But the nineteenth-century English theologian John Henry Newman was right when he said, The Pope, who comes of Revelation, has no jurisdiction over Nature. That would be true even if the natural law being invoked had some philosophical depth, but Catholics are asked to accept childish versions of natural law. For instance, since the natural use of sex is to beget children, any use apart from that is sinful, and mortally sinful. Masturbate and you go to hell (unless, of course, you confess the sin to a priest, which gives an ordained predator the chance to be comforting about masturbation).
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Priests are set apart, by celibacy, by sacramental powers. They are privileged, and they do not want to give up such influence. When dangers to their status come up, they must mute or minimize the dangers. After all, they do perform good work. Catholic charities are impressive. Priests cannot give people counsel and comfort if their position is compromised. This leads to a long-tacit bargain, a devils deal. If you do not challenge the priestly mystique, which bishops mean to use for good purposes, they will not reveal the vile treatment of boys. The priesthood itself is at stake.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/08/23/the-priesthood-of-the-big-crazy/
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Garry Wills: The Priesthood of The Big Crazy (Original Post)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2018
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MineralMan
(146,329 posts)1. The mystery of people who have voluntarily given up sex and reproduction,
but who advise others about sex and reproduction. That's one of the weirdest "mysteries" of Catholicism, I think.
Nitram
(22,877 posts)2. I agree.
When the Church decided that sex is inherently sinful, they planted the seeds of the rotten and disgusting behavior that is only now coming to light. I doubt most people know that Hieronymous Bosch's weird, surreal paintings were actually a powerful attack on corruption and evil in the Catholic Church. Check them out if you think any of this is new...
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)3. I'm a big fan of Bosch's paintings.
And yes, they are a powerful message against the hidden evils of the church. It's fascinating to look closely at their details and learn more about the symbolism he used. Here's a website that is a good starting point:
http://www.esotericbosch.com/