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daaron

(763 posts)
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:33 PM May 2012

Alabama '10 Commandments' judge says secularism will lead to Sharia law

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/29/ten-commandments-judge-roy-moore-secularism-leads-to-sharia-law/

What's worse - he's likely going to be a judge again, and now is head of an organization dedicated to establishing theocracy. Biased much?

“I firmly believe that only God can heal our land and he is waiting for the American people to wake up to what’s going on around them about a government that is denying God and in doing so is bent on taking away those rights and liberties and freedoms given to us by God, in contradiction to the very organic law from which we are based,” Moore explained on Friday. “I never regretted what I did, I did exactly what I knew I was to do and that is to stand firm and not let some federal judge tell me to remove a monument, which he had no right to do anyway.”

“What they fear most is my acknowledgment of the sovereignty of God,” he continued, adding that the federal judge had “violated not only our Constitution but the case law of the United States Supreme Court which says our religious freedom comes from God, and if it doesn’t come from God people have to realize we will lose it and that is happening in our country today with Sharia law and the allowance of religious practices for other groups but not Christians.”

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In recent months, Moore and his Foundation for Moral Law have been fighting to allow the small town Sylvania to use a Bible verse on their welcome signs.

“The Freedom from Religion Foundation has an agenda to remove any acknowledgement of God or religion from the public square and are trying to bully towns like Sylvania with threatening letters that grossly misrepresent the Constitution,” Moore told the Times-Journal. “Sylvania refuses to be bullied by the anti-religious sentiment of the FFRF. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution stands for freedom of religion, not freedom from religion, and we look forward to representing Sylvania in this important matter.”
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Alabama '10 Commandments' judge says secularism will lead to Sharia law (Original Post) daaron May 2012 OP
Well, I wanna know which version is the approved one... Permanut May 2012 #1
Please...PLEASE let it be the Exodus 34 version. laconicsax May 2012 #5
Oh brother, not again EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #2
How strong is the religious vote? struggle4progress May 2012 #3
I live in Alabama SoutherDem May 2012 #4
The stupid, it burns. trotsky May 2012 #6
You said it. Ow!! daaron May 2012 #7
Did this judge ever go to law school? edcantor May 2012 #8
Yeah. daaron May 2012 #9
I bet he failed basic Constitutional Law edcantor May 2012 #11
He was stripped of his chief justice position in 2003 because he refused cbayer May 2012 #10
See Scalia Thomas etc for Conservative recusal requirements. Leontius May 2012 #12

Permanut

(5,598 posts)
1. Well, I wanna know which version is the approved one...
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

the Exodus 20 version, or the Exodus 34 version, or the Deuteronomy version; or some mish mash of the three. I don't want Roy Moore to dictate which one is the real and authentic one.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
5. Please...PLEASE let it be the Exodus 34 version.
Wed May 30, 2012, 02:58 AM
May 2012

Nothing would make a mockery of the fundies as much as them fighting to have a monument giving instructions on fruit and animal sacrifices, waging war on your neighbors, Jewish holidays, and not mixing meat and dairy...

...Especially if it included verses 27 and 28:

And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the TEN COMMANDMENTS.


EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
2. Oh brother, not again
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

This guy is like a bad case of the crabs. Irritating as hell and really hard to get rid of.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
3. How strong is the religious vote?
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

By Steve Flowers
Published 11:00pm Thursday, May 10, 2012

On the morning of the March 13 Alabama GOP Primary, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore rode his horse to the polls to vote. As the day wore on it became apparent that he was riding a wave of evangelical support to be returned to his old job ...

A good many middle to upper income Alabamians, especially those in urban areas, were shocked by Moore’s victory. They lamented that it cast a negative image on the state. They posed the question to me, “How can this happen?” I turned the question back to them, “Did you vote in the Republican Primary?” They looked at me sheepishly and replied, “Well, no I didn’t.”

The explanation is simple. Moore’s supporters are older white rural folks primarily in North Alabama. They turn out in GOP primaries for president to voice their conservative religious beliefs. Whereas, the majority of upper income young professional urbane voters, especially in Birmingham and Huntsville, skip the primary. They lean Republican and will vote Republican in the General Election but tend to not participate in the primary. Therefore, Alabama may not be as conservative or religious as we may be perceived around the country. We still have a higher percentage of religious fundamentalist than other states. However, it is not as pronounced as some people may think ...

http://www.troymessenger.com/2012/05/10/how-strong-is-the-religious-vote/

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. I live in Alabama
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:14 AM
May 2012

The problem is the religious right votes! And they love him.

Honestly I think he is the clone of George Wallace!

The last time he was on the Alabama Supreme Court he was removed from office for not removing a big rock with the 10 Commandment on it from the Supreme Court building.

 

daaron

(763 posts)
7. You said it. Ow!!
Wed May 30, 2012, 09:27 AM
May 2012

It hurts. It's almost a physical pain when I think about how much stupider the voters are who are gonna put this dolt back on the bench. What can we, as progressives, do to combat stupid?

There's no reasoning with crazy. All we can hope for is to continue to marginalize and isolate this sort of lazythink.

Ridicule is, in such cases not just warranted, but I think apropos. We've got the rabid animal that is RW fundamentalism cornered. The next question is: how do we put the poor thing to sleep? Since that's just a metaphor, we can't! But maybe if we make fun of the cornered animal and poke it with metaphorical sticks, it will wear itself out and it's tired little heart will just stop beating.

 

edcantor

(325 posts)
8. Did this judge ever go to law school?
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:57 AM
May 2012

I find it hard to believe he made passing grades in any law school in America.

How can anyone who went to law school be so ignorant of the U.S. Constitution?

 

daaron

(763 posts)
9. Yeah.
Wed May 30, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

Graduated from University of Alabama School of Law in 1977 according to this bio:

http://www.morallaw.org/About_Judge_Roy_Moore.html

'Course, what does that say about the U of Alabama School of Law?

ETA: We should demand to see his transcripts.

 

edcantor

(325 posts)
11. I bet he failed basic Constitutional Law
Wed May 30, 2012, 03:44 PM
May 2012

The nature of law and the evolution of common law was not based upon religion, but more upon commerce and common concepts of fairness in the conduct of business, (e.g. debt and credit, and taxation), and, additionally in finding a means to codify what were common customs and practices in society, (e.g. "common law wife&quot .

The idea that law was based upon Christian teachings or even Jewish teachings is far from true. Hammurabi had a code of conduct, Egyptians had codes of trade and commerce, Greeks and Romans and other cultures as well, all before the New Testament was ever written.

One of the many purposes of the U.S. Constitution was to enable a transfer of well-established, age-old, common legal practices into a system of government that would be a democratic republic, a nation where the rights of (almost) all individuals were protected without the need for a monarch to oversee that protection. (Of course, we left out the black folks.)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. He was stripped of his chief justice position in 2003 because he refused
Wed May 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
May 2012

to enact a federal court order.

Doesn't sound like he learned much from that.

Now he has GOP endorsement in the upcoming election for chief justice.


This makes no sense. How can he head up a private organization that spearheads causes that are likely to come up to the Alabama Supreme Court.

Would he not have to recuse himself from every one of these cases?

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