Billboard to be erected on Billy Graham Highway in North Carolina

[cbayer]

Cross posted from LGBT with thanks to WillParkinson for finding this.



http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/05/billboard-of-day_30.html

[hlthe2b]

1. Too bad they probably won't have security cameras up to catch/record the inevitable vandals...

in the act.

[cbayer]

2. They are hoping to put more up across the city.

This is a San Diego church that put up similar signs after Prop 8.

They are collecting donations for more signs and hope to keep them up until the Democratic Convention.

Here's a more in-depth story.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/california-church-plans-billboard-charlotte-offeri/nPGCk/

[rocktivity]

3. By the time you're done reading all that

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you'll be PARKED on the billboard!


rocktivity

[cbayer]

4. Hopefully there are a lot of traffic jams in the area, lol.

[Goblinmonger]

5. I think this is great and all.

But I seem to remember a thread in here right after the vote about religion causing the outcome and some really pissed off religious people that denied that reality.

[daaron]

6. It was about that time -->

I joined up w/DU forums. As a liberal agnostic Christian and longtime Randi.org lurker, it really seemed like the R&S needed some moderating influences willing and able to raise the bar on the level of discourse... every which way.

As I recall, the issue was whether or not liberal Christians were enabling RW fundies by not protesting strenuously enough, which left some believers defensive in response to the (understandable if misdirected) outrage of non-believers and Rainbow-letters folk. "Rancorous" is too kind a word for the ensuing flame-war.

[cbayer]

7. I think that's an accurate description of what happened

Others may see it differently.

[laconicsax]

9. I just noticed that your sig is animated.

Watching the image loop and seeing that little sailboat journey off into the sunset is entertaining!

[Goblinmonger]

8. That was a different one.

I'm talking about this one (I think--just a quick search; didn't read through it all to see if it was the one I was actually remembering).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/121826165#top

[daaron]

11. Ayup. That one too!

Few of the liberal Christians I know bother with the OT at all, and most consider the majority of the OT as mythology mingled with old torah... the context and background, as it were. Where they go from there (NT forward) varies quite a bit.

Personally, I'm a little amazed that apocryphal and extra-biblical Christian texts, along with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi texts, hasn't had a more profound influence on open-minded (read: potentially liberal) Christians. They surely had an impact on the specific shape of my own belief, in that they demonstrate unequivocally that early Christianity was a highly diverse community, with many local varieties influenced by local belief systems.

[laconicsax]

10. Tangentially related...

I can't speak for anyone else here, but to me, liberal believers enable the RW fundies not by not protesting strenuously enough, but by protecting them from criticism of their nutty beliefs.

Probably the only decent thing Sam Harris ever wrote was the concentric circles of diminishing reasonableness. In it, he does a decent job of describing how that protection occurs.

[daaron]

12. Hm. Seems to me that your standard is lower than mine. :)

I have little patience for any Christian, liberal or not, protecting RW fundie 'nutty beliefs' from criticism. It's GOT to be our job (speaking as a U.S.American first and Christian second) to throw the fundies to the proverbial lions -- to not only refrain from protecting fundies from criticism, but to be the ones engaging in the most vociferous criticism of their despicable interpretation of scripture.

I confess that I don't see enough of that going on, but it's what I do, and it's what I encourage my fellow Christians to do when the topics come up. Perhaps working together believers and nons can pull some sort of epic rope-a-dope on these fuckers.

[laconicsax]

13. Examples of what I'm talking about can be seen in this very group.

Posters lauding religion for providing motivation to do good works while refusing to acknowledge the role religion plays in motivating people to do terrible things--the "give credit but never ascribe blame" mentality prevents discussion of how endorsing religious beliefs/faith as a good source of motivation enables the fundies.

I don't recall when you joined, but you may have seen the post by 2ndamforcomputers, "Say to my face that religion had nothing to do with what happened in North Carolina." In that thread, more than one person argued that the sincerely held religious beliefs of RW fundamentalists played no role in the passage of Amendment One. While I'm sure those who did that are lovely people who mean well and see their religion as a positive force in their lives and generally, their unwillingness to cite religion as a powerful motivation behind the homophobes of North Carolina prevents the relevant beliefs from being criticized.

I'm not sure that I've explained myself that clearly, and if I haven't, I apologize.

[daaron]

14. Just read part of the thread you mentioned.

YIKES!!!!

Point taken.