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JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:01 PM Jan 2020

In This Forum, can we discuss 'Church Issues' as well as overall organized religion debates?

Asking before I get too involved...

but I have a question about actual 'in my church, we have tried.. and it did/didnt work so then we..' type stuff. Just curious.. no need to flame or bash.

Love to ALL!

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In This Forum, can we discuss 'Church Issues' as well as overall organized religion debates? (Original Post) JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 OP
Kicking for you, I have no idea. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #1
YOU ROCK! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #12
Aww, I see you got some answers. 😊 dewsgirl Jan 2020 #30
We love church issues Cartoonist Jan 2020 #2
ahahaha... well HERE IS ONE... JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #3
if heaven is not good enuff give away toasters and trips to the ark museum nt msongs Jan 2020 #4
Seriously a toaster oven is better than ...... JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #8
Move it up Cartoonist Jan 2020 #5
Our early service is now 65+ JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #9
Justfivemoreminutes: SCantiGOP Jan 2020 #6
Thank you.. I figured as much... but then again I was graced by God with a Smart Ass! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #10
Hahaha! littlemissmartypants Jan 2020 #14
Not to nay-say - well, at least not just to nay-say - TomSlick Jan 2020 #7
Your thoughts seem to mirror mine.. especially when JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #11
In my experience, the "Praise Band" consists of a really bad guitar player, TomSlick Jan 2020 #16
WOW! You've been to my church??!! You should have said HI! :) JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #23
COULD BE.. but it IS boring... I wouldn't even go! But local churches... JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #22
Free food. Most people find it hard to refuse snacks and there are many who go around hungry. littlemissmartypants Jan 2020 #15
THANK YOU! Great points! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #24
Free sacramental wine Major Nikon Jan 2020 #17
we did talk about doing a $2 surcharge for sitting in the 4 back pews! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #25
If the traditional services are more popular, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #19
Change the content or the band, or both. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #21
Wow.. yes!! Thank you! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #26
I hope so! If you don't find open hearts and welcoming words here littlemissmartypants Jan 2020 #13
Thank you sooo much! Blessings for all! JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #27
You might find one of the protected Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #18
I like cat food and dog food. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20
As long as eitherboth are not LIVER! GROSS! hahahah JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #29
True. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #32
Actually I find the NaySayers a good resource! Does that make sense? JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #28
It does. I'm open to the opinions of others, whether or not I agree. TomSlick Jan 2020 #31

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
3. ahahaha... well HERE IS ONE...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

My church (I'm the Office Manager but gets involved in almost everything.. that's just me).

We have 3 services...

the first two are all Traditional with a Chancel Choir...

the last in Contemporary with 'Praise Band' (who IMHO are boring as heck)...

we have decent attendance in the Traditional...

but the Contemporary... we'd save money by not having it....
but it's NOT about money (you naysayers! BEGONE! LOL)

The dilemma is.. for the office staff.. how do we promote/market the Contemporary to get more souls in the seats?

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
6. Justfivemoreminutes:
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jan 2020

I don’t think you will get the courtesy of many serious replies here.
I’m not a believer, but this forum is usually too caustic for my tastes.
There are probably other forums more suited to your topic.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
10. Thank you.. I figured as much... but then again I was graced by God with a Smart Ass!
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:59 PM
Jan 2020

and I dont mean the one who brought Mary to Bethlehem!

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
7. Not to nay-say - well, at least not just to nay-say -
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jan 2020

but if folks aren't coming to the "contemporary" service, aren't they telling the Church something?

I don't find "contemporary" services worth the effort. Idiotic "praise songs" about how awesome God it, are hard to bear. The God of Abraham is not my good buddy.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
11. Your thoughts seem to mirror mine.. especially when
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jan 2020

'PRAISE BAND' means to listening to less than average singers with no back up except percusssion.

And that's truly my dilemma.... going to leadership and saying 'HAVE YOU BEEN to a contemporary service and stayed interested?" Ugh.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
16. In my experience, the "Praise Band" consists of a really bad guitar player,
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:17 AM
Jan 2020

an only sightly better bass player, and a kid on a drum set who can't seem to be able to count. On a really bad day, there will be some guy apparently trying to strangle a sax.

The crux of a "contemporary" service is bad music being poorly performed.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
22. COULD BE.. but it IS boring... I wouldn't even go! But local churches...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jan 2020

.. with the raise the roof, get out of your seat... seem to be doing well!

And there is the true issue... how can I tell leadership I'm in my 60s and find your contemporary service YAWN worthy!!!

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
15. Free food. Most people find it hard to refuse snacks and there are many who go around hungry.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jan 2020

If that doesn't work try changing the time or even limiting the band to one Sunday a month or every other Sunday. Track the attendance and if you find a relationship between the band and attendance, consider changing the band's calendar or eliminate the band completely.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. Free sacramental wine
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:02 AM
Jan 2020

Two glasses max. After that it’s a $5 minimum donation per glass.

Four free glasses each if you bring in a new member.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
25. we did talk about doing a $2 surcharge for sitting in the 4 back pews!
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:03 PM
Jan 2020

Nobody wanted to be the 'money-lender' hahahah

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
19. If the traditional services are more popular,
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jan 2020

What do the demographics look like in a comparison of the traditional people versus the contemporary people?

And have you tried asking the people which type they prefer, and why?

I am certain that you have already done these things, but asking people what they would like to see in each type of service might help you make decisions going forward.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Change the content or the band, or both.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe try a couple guest bands for a while, just to shake things up. If that doesn't work, try new songs. Mumford and Sons have a few that are part Shakespeare, part religious, might work as a change of pace. (Timshel, Roll Away Your Stone, etc.)

Voltaire2

(13,009 posts)
18. You might find one of the protected
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jan 2020

religious groups a better fit, although they are pretty dead.

This forum is the theists vs atheists food fight forum.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
31. It does. I'm open to the opinions of others, whether or not I agree.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:22 AM
Jan 2020

The lesson I have learned is to read and not argue or plead for civility.

If it hurts your feelings to be told you are simple minded or actively psychotic, this ain't your site. I spent the better part of thirty years in the Army so I've been called worse. My feelings aren't easily bruised.

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