The Renouncing of Pomps

[Cartoonist]

They didn't caption the second circular panel. He is kissing the priest's robes. This establishes who is master.

[MineralMan]

1. Pomps and Circumcisions

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[Karadeniz]

2. Interesting...harks back to the original purpose of baptism, the renouncing of Mammon

And dedicating one's life to doing good. Not a word about accepting Jesus as one's savior. This is a good ritual and I'm not fond of rituals.

[guillaumeb]

3. Submission to the will of the Creator?

But that submission must be freely given, so it is not a master/slave relationship.

A slave cannot refuse a master.

[Cartoonist]

4. I was going to say dominatrix

But went with master.

Back when I was a believer, I thought it was a sin to say no to a priest. I had a nun whose favorite saying was, "Don't contradict me even if I'm wrong."

Get the picture? This is why pedophilia is so rampant in the church. Kids are conditioned to think of religious officials as actual agents of God.

[guillaumeb]

5. I understand your point.

And yes, unquestioned obedience is, unfortunately, part of many institutions.

[trotsky]

7. #whataboutism n/t

[Cartoonist]

8. I didn't respond to that post

But he clearly missed my point. A priest has more authority than a school teacher or a scout master.

[guillaumeb]

10. Refuse to do what a teacher wishes for you to do.

No, the situations are not identical, but authority can be used badly.

[trotsky]

11. Not to mention, a priest's authority comes from the "ultimate" authority.

He will never, ever acknowledge the uniqueness of the RCC abuse dynamics though. Remember, for him, everything bad is just due to "human nature" and religion is never, ever a factor ANYTIME.

[trotsky]

6. How "freely" can it be given at all...

when the threat of eternal punishment is issued?

[guillaumeb]

9. As freely as any choice we make.

[trotsky]

12. Bullshit. n/t