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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:36 PM Aug 2012

Judge tosses lawsuit over FBI surveillance of California mosques

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/us-usa-mosque-lawsuit-idUSBRE87E03Y20120815

By Dan Whitcomb
LOS ANGELES | Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:35pm EDT
(Reuters) - A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed a lawsuit charging that the FBI violated civil liberties by sending an informant into several California mosques to spy on U.S. Muslims, ruling that allowing the case to proceed could risk disclosure of government secrets.

U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney wrote in a 36-page order that he was reluctant to toss out the case before it could be litigated but was forced to weigh national security against individual liberties and an open judicial process.

In the decision, Carney compared himself to the fictional Greek hero Odysseus, who while sailing home from the Trojan War faced navigating his ship between a six-headed monster on one side and a dangerous whirlpool on the other.

"Odysseus opted to pass by the monster and risk a few of his individual sailors, rather than hazard the loss of his entire ship to the sucking whirlpool," he wrote. "Similarly, the proper application of the state secrets privilege may unfortunately mean the sacrifice of individual liberties for the sake of national security."

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Judge tosses lawsuit over FBI surveillance of California mosques (Original Post) cbayer Aug 2012 OP
Another coward in black robes atreides1 Aug 2012 #1
Odysseus he is not. cbayer Aug 2012 #3
"...could risk disclosure of government secrets." Ezlivin Aug 2012 #2
I compare him to Adikia. rug Aug 2012 #4
Had to look that one up. Throttled by Dike! cbayer Aug 2012 #5
I suspect that the government could have survived the disclosure Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #6

atreides1

(16,087 posts)
1. Another coward in black robes
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:45 PM
Aug 2012

So this "judge" is willing to sacrifice the guarantees of the US Constitution instead of telling the government it's wrong!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. Odysseus he is not.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

Cowardly or under duress, he is.

It's unbelievable that he is dismissing this and I am glad to see that ACLU will appeal.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
2. "...could risk disclosure of government secrets."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:58 PM
Aug 2012

That's the magic phrase that allows the government to do whatever the fuck it wants.

This has been claimed a thousand times and there's no way to say "Prove it." We have to take them at their word.

The coup on 9/11 was quite successful.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
6. I suspect that the government could have survived the disclosure
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:02 AM
Aug 2012

My father, who was a former regular navy officer, said that a major reason for classifying documents and reports of acts by the government was to save one or more officials from looking like idiots or criminals.

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