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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:16 AM Sep 2012

Bill Nye Really Doesn’t Understand Science – Ken Ham

Oh WOW! what a crazy rant.

All he does is attack Bill Nye and talks about planes coming together at random

And… then, he pulls out the, “….if you treat people like animals….” crap.

Ken also claims there are two types of science – arggggg….

What do you think is the stupidest thing he says.

http://www.skepticmoney.com/bill-nye-really-doesnt-understand-science-ken-ham/

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. I tried twice and got the same result. I have a VERY slow connection, so
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

the problem could be on my end.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. Well, this is certainly a quandary...Do I believe some of the most intelligent people ...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

...on this modern planet or take the word of semi-illiterate Goat Herders from 2000 years ago. ??

decisions, decisions

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
5. When a person's paycheck depends on being stupid
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:35 AM
Sep 2012

then stupid he will be - incredibly stupid.
I always think for people like Ham and Limbaugh etc. it they have found an extremely well paying niche in feeding the stupidity of Americans.
So, knowing full well they are lying through their teeth they continue to make up lies to support the lies to support the other lies. And because this horseshit is so much easier to understand Americans eat it up like the candy it is.

Americans have always been huge suckers for liars who make them seem smart or beautiful or whatever. And there is always a Romeny or a Ryan or a Bush to exploit the fuck out of them.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,477 posts)
6. Ken Ham has shown that his understanding of science is essentially nil
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sep 2012

This can be said of any creationist. To be a creationist, one must reject most of biology, almost all of astronomy, a lot of physics, all of geology, and even some chemistry and mathematics

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Says the guy who thing humans rode vegan T Rex's
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:25 PM
Sep 2012


Says the guy who thinks the universe is 6,000-some years old.


Says the guy that thinks Adam's and Eve's sons, Cain and Abel, got their spouses by marrying their sisters. That's right. Cain and Abel fucked their sisters. Family values, there.


Really. This is all there at Ken Ham's Creation Museum for all to see. (If you have the price of admission -- family rates available)

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
9. Ah the good old jumbo jet crap from Hoyle
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:34 PM
Sep 2012

(the same Hoyle who didn't even believe in an expanding universe, red shift be damned)

And it makes perfect sense.

As long as you ignore chemistry. And scale. And time.

A more accurate analogy using the same concepts would be to imagine untold trillions upon trillions of trillions of junkyards (molecules are very small and the earth is very large) in constant tornados for a billion years AND then imagine that a jumbo jet wheel will grab onto and hold a tire but reject a seat cover, which would grab onto and hold a seat but reject a flap, which would grab onto and hold a hinge but reject a windshield, which would....... and so on.

Now work out how unlikely it is that a jumbo jet gets assembled somewhere in that billion years or so before life emerged. It only happens once after all, sincle unlike 747s life is self-replicating.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
10. Mr. Nye was on CNN a few weeks ago, interviewed by Carol Costello.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:52 PM
Sep 2012

She was insulting. She called him the "'whacky science guy" & questioned what he could possibly know about climate change. You could tell from his expression he was shocked at her rudeness, but he carried on & very nicely, & scientifically, put her in her place!

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
12. The stoopid; it burns.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

I couldn't make it all the way through.

Good thing there aren't real religious people that believe this for the impaired.

Jim__

(15,222 posts)
13. Toward the end of his video, Dr Menton cites a quote from Adam Wilkins.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 11:21 AM
Sep 2012

His citation is at about 2:40 into the video:


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Here's a link ( http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1521-1878%28200012%2922:12%3C1051::AID-BIES1%3E3.0.CO;2-7/pdf ) to the complete essay from Adam Wilkins. An excerpt:


The subject of evolution occupies a special, and paradoxical,
place within biology as a whole. While the great majority
biologists would probably agree with Theodosius Dobzhansky's
dictum that ``nothing in biology makes sense except in the
light of evolution'', most can conduct their work quite happily
without particular reference to evolutionary ideas. ``Evolution''
would appear to be the indispensible unifying idea and, at the
same time, a highly superfluous one.

Yet, the marginality of evolutionary biology may be
changing. More and more issues in biology, from diverse
questions about human nature to the vulnerability of ecosystems,
are increasingly seen as reflecting evolutionary events.
A spate of popular books on evolution testifies to this
development. If we are to fully understand these matters,
however, we need to understand the processes of evolution
that, ultimately, underlie them. This thematic issue of
BioEssays is a survey of these processesÐand the ways
they shape the properties of living things, from bacteria to
humans.


The rest of the essay is a brief description of the articles in a special issue of BioEssays on evolutionary processes.

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