A religion forum, and no mention of Billy Graham?

[DavidL]

Billy Graham just endorsed Mitt Romney this week, they met and Billy gave his blessings, or whatever... he chose to stop intellectual warfare from Evangalical preachers against the cult of Mormonism.

GEEZE... one group of fantasy thinkers agrees NOT to wage a publicity campaign against another (non military) group of fantasy thinkers, both of whom have made billions of dollars over the past century convincing millions of Americans to give them, (one of the two) 10% of those millions' of Americans' income, TAX FREE!!!

Billy Graham, Mitt Romney, two VERY SUCCESSFUL religious leaders of MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS in the USA, both claiming to be Christians, both claiming all sorts of fanciful stories about revelations, visions, feelings, moments, denials of temptations, and on and on and on.

So, does anyone know the net worth of Billy Graham, his ministries, or Mitt Romney, his ministries?

Mitt Romney vetoed over 800 bills while Governor of Massachusetts, almost ALL of them over-ridden by the legislature.

Just sayin...

Why did I throw THAT FACT in? Just saying, it only takes a few tens of thousands to to commit 10% of their income to Mitt Romney's church, which I see every day as I drive down state route #2 on Mass from Concord to Boston..I see that monstrosity of a church on the hill overlooking Boston, in Belmont or Arlington, (not sure which, Belmont, I think). And then I see Billy Graham billboards in NH, and CT and NY and NC, trying to convince me that the reason my life isn't right is because I haven't accepted Jesus as my Savior. It's either one form of guilt-tripping, or it's another... both of which don't really have anything to do with anything about me, but about taking my money.

That's what Billy Graham, and Republicanism and Mitt Romney are all about. Strange there's not a word of discussion of this bastardization of "religious" activity in America here on this liberal DU forum on "religion". Why so?

[struggle4progress]

1. "yer gonna go t'hell if ya votes for th'mormon unless he's runnin against sum black dude"

seems to be th'PoV over thar w'them Graham crackers

[DavidL]

2. So, tell me again, how Christianity is HELPING

re-elect Obama?

I kind of didn't see this in the last few weeks on my TV machine. I saw Billy Graham, now about 98, supporting Romney.

Did those "liberal" Christian progressive folks ever get out there and do their thing for their "liberal" progressive Christianity?

I only got the Romney Christians on MY TV machine.

Where are all these DU progressive Christians getting out in front of Obama for re-election?

I don't see them. All I see are rational atheists, and agnostics and Muslims.

Did some prominent Christians come out and publicly support Obama? I must have missed that

[cleanhippie]

5. "Did those "liberal" Christian progressive folks ever get out there and do their thing..."

Did those "liberal" Christian progressive folks ever get out there and do their thing for their "liberal" progressive Christianity?

Well, we are constantly TOLD that they do by our resident liberal believers, yet we never really SEE it ACTUALLY happening in the real world.

[dmallind]

6. Come now, you are being unfair.

Catholics for Choice, The Episcopal Divinity School, Methodist Foundation for Social Action, Interfaith Alliance.

These giants of Christian and religious activism, household names all, are every bit as zealous in their support of Obama as are the less well known and less popular Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, The Catholic hierarchy, and so on are for Romney. Their endless financial and ground game support from their huge membership rolls is just as effective, just as well co-ordinated, and just as proudly, consistently, and publicly stated.

Surely you can see the obvious mass appeal of these titanic groups working nonstop in the name of the juggernaut that is liberal Christianity in the US!

[BlueStreak]

3. I heard from a very reliable source that God has instructed St. Peter ...

to send Mr. Graham away if he should call.

Same goes for Mr. Robertson, Mr. Tilton, Mr. Hinn, Mr. Parsley, Mr. Swaggart, Mr. Angeley, and all the other teevee preacher crooks.

[rug]

4. We try to eschew dog whistles.

[cbayer]

7. EarlG finally heard this one.

[rug]

9. I saw. Returning disruptor.

GUESS WHO!

[cbayer]

10. I'M NOT SURE. WHAT DO YOU THINK???????

[Iggo]

8. Oops. Sorry. Here you go.

Fuck Billy Graham.

There. I mentioned him.