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[cleanhippie]

[niyad]

1. most definite k and r

[cleanhippie]

6. Thanks.

Happy Holidays.

[Moonwalk]

2. Awesome! K&R and let's send this out everywhere we can. I hope it goes viral!

[cleanhippie]

5. Please repost liberally!

Happy Holidays!

[Starboard Tack]

3. Very nice CH. I'm proud of you! Merry Xmas to you and yours.

[cleanhippie]

4. Thanks?

Unsure whether you are being genuine or passive-aggressive again. In the spirit of the season, I will go with genuine.

Happy Holidays to you as well.

[Starboard Tack]

7. Totally genuine. I also like your other post about dialog with moderates.

Keep up the good work.

[pinto]

8. Happy holidays, cleanhippie. I'm doing the wreath on the door thing this week.

(aside) The history of the phrase "Christmas" may be tracked back to the closing of the RC Latin ritual and the word mass itself.

"Ite, missa est" in Latin. or "Go, it is sent". It's the priest's closing comment. There's been a lot of interpretations of what the three words imply over time. Interesting to me, I love etymology.

[cleanhippie]

9. And to you, pinto. Our wreath is already hanging on the door, and the lights are up.

Even broke out our little mini-tree that sits on the end table. Hope your holidays are wonderful.

[AlbertCat]

12. Even broke out our little mini-tree that sits on the end table.

I don't even have any tree ornaments, but my buddy Bill likes to make and do and fluff for Christmas so I let him put up a tree and decorate it. (no overtly religious symbols is my only rule) It's always nice to bring sweet smelling green things inside. And of course all those childhood memories.... well not all but a lot of them are fun and the tree brings them back. Also the cat has a great time destroying hanging ornaments!

I live in a resort town on an island, and the few permanent residents, like myself, love the lighted tree easily viewed in the many windows, 40 ft up on the 3rd floor....especially since most the island is dark and deserted. I'm the only one with a wreath on the beachfront side of the house (again...40' up on the 3rd floor balcony) My buddy Paul made that out of woody vine, decorated with sea shells and lights and a flying pelican at the top. The fishermen like that so we have the timer light it up in the wee hours of the morning.

[AlbertCat]

13. There's been a lot of interpretations of what the three words imply over time.

I love 18th century music and in high school, after discovering Bach "Messe in h moll" BWV 232, and then listening to Mozart's "Credo" Mass in C K257, I started to wonder how different composers in different centuries set the same Latin text. This became sorta a study.... not in music (I'm not a musician) but in expression. I listened to a lot of masses. It is fascinating how traditions change, and remain, and how even the same composer alters music to express what he feels is important at different times in his career.

I highly recommend

Bach: Messe in h moll BWV 232... and the Missa Brevis in A BWV 234
Mozart: "Credo" Mass K257 and "Coronation" Mass K217... and the unfinished "Great" Mass in C minor K427
Haydn: "Mass in time of war" Hob XXI: 9
Beethoven: Missa Solemnis Op 123 (and I also like his Mass in C Op 86, but apparently nobody else does)

I also like Stravinsky's Mass.... a 12 tone setting.

I know almost all the mass in Latin.... not bad for an atheist!

I also started doing the same thing with Requiems.


Anyway.... it was a fun exercise. And I haven't even mentioned 19th century masses, or Renaissance ones.

Music is the best thing Man invented!

Happy Holidays everyone! Go listen to some Classical Music! It's OK during the Christmas season! No really!

[dimbear]

10. About 75000 years ago, our European ancestors noticed that it got dark and cold

around this time of year. They stayed in their caves around the fire and to pass the time they carved stuff for the kids.

That's where it started.

[roguevalley]

11. Yule can't come fast enough at my house. If I survive the apocalypse

overnight that day, I will be living it up the 22nd. ;D

Merry Yule, my fellow human beings.