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An Atheist, a Theist, and an Agnostic walk into a bar... (Original Post) cleanhippie Dec 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #1
Kinda presumptuous, I'd say. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #2
I don't think that was the point... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #6
Couldn't you say EXACTLY the same thing about "many" atheists? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #14
Since I don;t feel like typing it again... gcomeau Dec 2012 #16
Opps. Too early in the a.m. for my eyes to be working correctly... 1monster Dec 2012 #8
Dishonest? Not sure where you got that. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #15
Panel 3? n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #17
I don't get it sakabatou Dec 2012 #3
Agnostics are half-assed. DetlefK Dec 2012 #4
I think it is basically saying that... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #5
Huh... OK. sakabatou Dec 2012 #7
Or they could just be people that acknowledge that they don't Live and Learn Dec 2012 #9
Atheists DO acknowledge we don't know everything. trotsky Dec 2012 #11
I'll go with that way of looking at it. wandy Dec 2012 #13
not at all like an agnostic philosophicleese Dec 2012 #10
This may help: trotsky Dec 2012 #12

Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
6. I don't think that was the point...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:09 AM
Dec 2012

I think it had to do with how Agnostics, not all, but many do consider any criticism of religion to be rude. If the cartoon was representing something else then I missed it.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
14. Couldn't you say EXACTLY the same thing about "many" atheists?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:19 AM
Dec 2012

Agnostics are not... by any definition that I ever heard... polite ( or wimpy) atheists.

Agnostics will variously self -define but a pretty mainstream definition is the conviction that what one can't know, one can't know. The existence of god (s) is unknowable therefore..........

That's not atheism and it certainly isn't "polite" or "wimpy" or , to quote myself, "dishonest".

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
5. I think it is basically saying that...
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:05 AM
Dec 2012

Agnostics are really Atheist who don't want to offend religious people...If so, I would agree there are Agnostics like that who think any criticism of religion by non-believers is rude.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
9. Or they could just be people that acknowledge that they don't
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:40 AM
Dec 2012

know everything and don't assume anyone else does either!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. Atheists DO acknowledge we don't know everything.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
Dec 2012

But we ARE able to judge the validity of certain claims, aren't we? Would you put on a suit of armor and grab a sword before entering your garage if someone told you there was a dragon in it? I mean, you don't *know* that there isn't one in there! How dare you be so presumptuous as to claim there isn't?

10. not at all like an agnostic
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:59 AM
Dec 2012

First of all just want to let everyone know, I am not new to Democratic Underground. I have been around since DU first started, have had a couple accounts and for various reasons such as couldn't remember a generic password DU used to give people, I just quit posting and mostly just lurk. This post compelled me to comment.

My point is I consider myself to be agnostic since I don't absolutely discount the possibility of God but I lean more toward the evolution theory of existence. I am quite known for letting religious people, even people very close to me, know when they are being hypocrites or just plain stupid. My husband on the other hand leans more atheist and he is less likely to say something to offend someone about any issue. Maybe this cartoon is stereotyping people too much, I believe it has more to do with personality than beliefs.
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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. This may help:
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:03 AM
Dec 2012
http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/

(A)gnosticism vs. (A)theism is a matter of knowledge versus belief. You don't have to be one or the other, there are combinations of each.
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