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dimbear

(6,271 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:05 PM Oct 2013

11 yr old molested over 3 year period, youth volunteer facing the death penalty

http://m.christianpost.com/news/11-year-old-molested-during-sunday-school-over-3-year-period-youth-volunteer-facing-death-penalty--107834/

"Hillsborough County Sheriff's deputies arrested 47-year-old William Richardson II on charges that between 2010 and October 2013 he molested a girl who was nine-years-old at the time the alleged abuse began at First Baptist Church of Mango.

In a news release, law enforcement also claimed that the most recent attack came this month, when "at 11 years old, Richardson on at least one occasion sexually battered [the girl.]"

Richardson is currently facing the death penalty for his actions because of the ages of himself and the alleged victim. Under Florida law, sexual battery is a capital felony when the victim is under the age of 12 and perpetrator over the age of 17.
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According to Hillsborough County deputies, Richardson is an associate youth pastor and choir director at First Baptist Church of Mango. However, church staff told 10 News that Richardson only served as a volunteer with the youth."
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dimbear: talk about your moral dilemmas. If this chap is really the wretch he seems to be, should he get the needle? A real puzzler, IMHO.




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11 yr old molested over 3 year period, youth volunteer facing the death penalty (Original Post) dimbear Oct 2013 OP
He's scum, but I oppose the death penalty in all cases. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #1
Agreed. nt enlightenment Oct 2013 #6
Ditto demosincebirth Oct 2013 #16
Same here, just lock him in a cage and keep him there Warpy Nov 2013 #33
I Thought death penalty for anything besides murder yodermon Oct 2013 #2
Federal law doesn't apply here; this was a state crime. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #4
I guess I'm thinking about the cruel and unusual punishment yodermon Oct 2013 #10
The Supreme Court has held (long ago) that the death penalty doesn't violate The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #11
I'm off mobile so i can explain better now: yodermon Oct 2013 #18
What this bastard did to that child is cruel and unusual. xfundy Oct 2013 #12
The US Constitution applies. Supreme Court precedent applies. morningfog Nov 2013 #27
You are correct. Unless he took a life, he can't get death. morningfog Nov 2013 #28
This is a horrible thing to happen, for the life of me I don't understand why the perverts Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #3
Perverts choose their professions and volunteer activities so they CAN HAVE ACCESS to children. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #8
he will wish he was dead.... madrchsod Oct 2013 #5
I cannot support the DP for any crime. longship Oct 2013 #7
No dilemma here. If he's guilty of the crimes described, he's a monster. Kill him. Poddy Fries Oct 2013 #9
So you're cool with government sponsored murder? How sad. bowens43 Oct 2013 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #21
Are you okay with his crime? This child is sentenced to living with this for life. Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #31
No death penalty ever under any circumstance. It's a no brainier. bowens43 Oct 2013 #13
No death penalty. Ever. Iggo Oct 2013 #15
No capital punishment for crimes other than murder. doxyluv13 Oct 2013 #17
If you accept the death penalty it is... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #19
I am against the death penalty so I say life if found guilty. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #20
If he gets life in prison okasha Nov 2013 #22
I am pretty sure it is unconstitutional to execute someone for a crime in which nobody died. arely staircase Nov 2013 #23
It's still legal for things like espionage, treason, but otherwise you're right SpartanDem Nov 2013 #24
ok ftr I will shed no tears for this person if he has done what he is acused of arely staircase Nov 2013 #25
You are right that any crime against a person morningfog Nov 2013 #29
It's a terrible idea to execute him. Mariana Nov 2013 #26
If Florida seeks death, his sentence will be vacated morningfog Nov 2013 #30
No death penalty ever gopiscrap Nov 2013 #32

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
33. Same here, just lock him in a cage and keep him there
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 01:43 AM
Nov 2013

for as long as his fellow inmates let him live.

He's very typical of a child rapist, hiding behind the cross.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
11. The Supreme Court has held (long ago) that the death penalty doesn't violate
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:39 PM
Oct 2013

the 8th Amendment as long as it carried out using "humane" modern methods. I would beg to differ but I don't get to decide these things.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
18. I'm off mobile so i can explain better now:
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 11:51 PM
Oct 2013

I thought that the SC held that the death penalty for any crime other than murder is by definition cruel & unusual.

However, I do remember Poppy Bush arguing for the death penalty for drug dealers(!) so I could be wrong here.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
12. What this bastard did to that child is cruel and unusual.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 09:20 PM
Oct 2013

It seems that reports of those in church 'authority' abusing chidren or worse flow in on a daily basis. And many congregations are super-secret in their operations. I can't help but wonder how many similar stories go unreported, ignored or covered up as they were for so many years in the Catholic church and others.

And still, the rest of us are supposed to give "christians" the benefit of the doubt in most things, as they are historically considered "the good folks" who would never do anything wrong. "Trust us!" they say.

Hell, no, never again.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
27. The US Constitution applies. Supreme Court precedent applies.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:14 PM
Nov 2013

He can't be put to death unless he took a life. A small caveat for crimes against the state, treason for example, has not been decided. But, crimes against the person, unles you take a life, you cannot get death.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. This is a horrible thing to happen, for the life of me I don't understand why the perverts
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:16 PM
Oct 2013

Chooses to place themselves to have access to our children. I doubt this is his first time to abuse. Sick, sick sick. Sometimes the punishment should fit the crime.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. I cannot support the DP for any crime.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oct 2013

All the arguments for the DP are vacuous. And the revenge argument is especially so.

Response to bowens43 (Reply #14)

doxyluv13

(247 posts)
17. No capital punishment for crimes other than murder.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 10:06 PM
Oct 2013

Kennedy v. Louisiana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana

Supreme Court decided Capital Punishment is only constitutional for murder, and specifically not for child rape. The state just hasn't changed their procedures to conform to the law. Surprising.

Also, the constitutionality of the Death Penalty in a U.S. constitutional issue so the state courts are largely irrelevant in determining those boundaries.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
19. If you accept the death penalty it is...
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:27 AM
Nov 2013

Back when prison was and expense and inconvenience for government, the death penalty was an easy out. No prisoners to feed, no appeals, and no watching them after they got out.

Here's some Colonial money:



They took counterfeiting seriously back then.

However, these days the death penalty isn't all that popular, and more and more people started thinking that dying to pay for killing makes no sense. Dying to pay for crimes less than killing makes even less sense.

So, heinous as the crime is, killing the bastid should be out of the question.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
22. If he gets life in prison
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

he will wish he'd gotten the death penalty. That's the greater punishment, imo.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
23. I am pretty sure it is unconstitutional to execute someone for a crime in which nobody died.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:57 PM
Nov 2013

I could be wrong.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
24. It's still legal for things like espionage, treason, but otherwise you're right
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 08:58 PM
Nov 2013

it's been ruled unconstitutional for every other crime

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
29. You are right that any crime against a person
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:17 PM
Nov 2013

That doesn't take a life cannot get the death penalty. For some crimes against the state, such as treason and large scale drug trafficking, it is an open question.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
26. It's a terrible idea to execute him.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:11 PM
Nov 2013

I think it would make child molesters more likely to kill their victims in the future. Why would child rapists leave their victims alive to report and testify, if they're going to get the needle either way?

I also oppose the DP in all cases.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
30. If Florida seeks death, his sentence will be vacated
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:20 PM
Nov 2013

and their statute officially struck down as unconstitutional. In the meantime, they will was a million or so dollars going through this stupid exercise. Death penalty for rape is unconstitutional, regardless of age.

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