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Related: About this forumThe assault always happens twice
Nov 06 2013
by PZ Myers
Another day, another woman reports abuse from a skeptic leader. Pamela Gay describes the aftermath of being groped in a bar.
And I hate myself for wishing this would all just go away, instead of wishing that there could be justice. But I guess I fear that justice has a price I dont have the life blood to pay for.
Over and over, I have made the choice, what happened isnt worth raising a stink about. Dont ruin everyones [fun/con/career]. Over and over, Ive made the choice, Yeah, that guy (but he was drunk!) slapped my butt in passing, but he is a leader at what he does, so I need to just get over myself and work with him.
I hate myself for this.
Over and over, I have made the choice, what happened isnt worth raising a stink about. Dont ruin everyones [fun/con/career]. Over and over, Ive made the choice, Yeah, that guy (but he was drunk!) slapped my butt in passing, but he is a leader at what he does, so I need to just get over myself and work with him.
I hate myself for this.
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The assault always happens twice (Original Post)
rug
Nov 2013
OP
That's only one of the many reasons I believe in women being taught how to fight.
IrishAyes
Nov 2013
#3
chervilant
(8,267 posts)1. The next few paragraphs are poignant:
I hate myself because I made the choice that not raising a fuss was more important than my self worth.
Read that again. Its fucked up. But its who I am, and when I read the hashtag #RipplesOfDoubt a few weeks ago, I realized how often we women make that decision. Im fucked up, but Im not alone. Too many of us fill our heads with euphemisms and excuses. Its so much easier to think, Its a drunk guy being a drunk ass. It hurts so much more to say, I had someone try and sexually assault me.
Its a double strike. First theres the assault proper, and then theres the unwarranted guilt and self-recrimination afterwards.
Why do some people (primarily men) think it's okay or funny or whatever to touch, fondle, slap, grope, punch another human being they don't know (usually a woman)?!?
rug
(82,333 posts)2. It's way too common, cutting across every strata and group in society.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)3. That's only one of the many reasons I believe in women being taught how to fight.
And I don't mean 'like a girl' either. The way my brothers and later sensei taught me. Early on I got the nickname 'the Sicilian' because of my fondness for kneecaps.