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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:42 PM

45's "Soul"

His soul is corrupted to the point where I don't think it even wants to exist in it's host body.

I've studied life after life/life between lives for over 30 years. I have a pretty good idea of what actually happens when we die, and what it is like on the "other side" (there have been thousands of case studies). I have seen and communicated with loved ones and people who have passed over. I'm actually a bit torn on this issue of 45's "soul".

On the one hand, he has done so much harm and created so much karma, that he will have MUCH to deal with when he crosses over where you have to understand and experience your actions as well as those who are affected by your actions, and you get to experience what they went through for your soul's growth and understanding.

On the other hand, he, in a strange way - and I have a hard time even typing this - he has done humanity a bit of a service. Someone had to be the one who embodies all that is dark and corrosive in humanity so that it could be fully revealed, and then healed. By his actions he has unmasked the darkest parts of humans; given them "permission" to put it on the outside and let hate/fear be their Master. Because it is out there now, we can not UN-see it, so it must be dealt with. (gives you a moment to think about the deeper meaning behind the anti-maskers, doesn't it?).

He is responsible for the devastation of hundreds of thousands of lives BY HIS OWN CHOICE. Not only by his actions over this virus, but his actions towards immigrants, the poor children and babies in cages, the sick and elderly, the students, the Veterans, and on and on. But, since he has always been like this from what his family says - perhaps he was born a sociopath (I'm not a doctor but its pretty plain to see). Do we try to have some kind of empathy for the actions of someone with a damaged brain? Because no matter what evil thoughts he has, he could not do this on his own. To enact them on such a huge scale took an army and a lifetime of enablers.

I feel there is a whole soul-group who are either part of this scenario of bringing this to our lives in order for us to heal, or a soul group who have karmically made the wrong choices for so many lifetimes that this catastrophe was inevitable anyway.

Thoughts?

Recommended Reading: Journey of Souls by Michael Newton, PhD and Destiny of Souls by Michael Newton, PhD.

Annette
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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:48 PM

1. It's true that he's a reflection of something very dark in our society

And you’re right— he’s bringing it to light.

Interesting.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:55 PM

4. He sure is

They are so motivated by hate. Surreal!

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:55 PM

7. He just doesn't reflect in a mirror.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:49 PM

2. Interesting read

Don't know if this is accurate or not or will come to pass, but nevertheless very interesting.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:54 PM

3. Yes

Someone is going to be visiting Saturn between lives for some difficult lessons.

Frankly, I have wondered if he & his ilk are reincarnated nazis, having failed to learn.

Ty for book rec! I will get a copy right away.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:01 PM

5. From everything I have studies regarding our souls

I think both your alternatives are correct.

From Alice Bailey’s Theosophical books I’ve read that there are Masters who will take the role of someone like Hitler when the time is right for such heavy karma in the world. These great souls do not create karma for themselves and what they do is a sacrifice.

On the other hand there are humans (not on the soul level) who choose the dark side. When they get to the level of darkness that has so much negative and dark power in the world their souls have long since withdrawn. The person will have to pay the karma for many lifetimes before it’s soul returns to it. The soul itself does not need to go through this. When the human is ready the soul returns. Actually the person ‘calls’ the soul back.

In both cases, though, god or Logos’ grand plan is served and personalities are given the chance to evolve through karma.

Trump, like everyone else, has free choice.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:13 PM

6. He created his own bad karma, but as you said what has come now , he could not do it on his own.

.. he could not do this on his own. To enact devastation on such a huge scale took an army and a lifetime of enablers.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:34 PM

8. I agree.

I think he volunteered for this dark mission.

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

9. I use Christianity, not usually at its literal level, for the truths contained in its spiritual

Level, barely understood in today's Christianity. I, too, have studied the sources you mentioned, and more, but there are always areas of debate. In this instance, Jesus's opinion appears at the literal level. Good doesn't come from a bad person. In the god system presented in bits and pieces throughout the parables, it is clear that souls come from the source as the source's agents to bring spiritual values to earth. Spiritual "debts" must be paid via reincarnation. In my own experience with the world of the source, proximity to the "radiance in the void" was determined by soul development. So, the source would never come into contact with "ungodly" qualities. How would the source, then, even know to send out a soul to exemplify evil? The source has no knowledge of evil. This understanding is also embedded in a major parable.

Having had an experience at the omega end of the process, for ages I tried to learn about the other levels of the other side. There's one TV show that fascinates me since it involves things I couldn't have dreamed of. The Dead Files. If you haven't seen it, boy it'll inspire anyone to lead a good life!

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Response to AC_Mem (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 07:33 AM

10. I think I would like to read this book by Michael Newton...

We do have to move deeper into discovery/understanding rationale for his behavior ....It's a big Universe...Ying and Yang, Positive Negative Forces do need to balance out....Currently, we all are in a knee-jerk reactionary posture...understandable because we want to survive and tRump is just a painful soul to endure right now...

This is a collective of negative souls....this build-up has been evolving since Reagan...progression is just brutal....This Election is going to be key to humanities survival I believe...

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