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IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:21 PM Jan 2015

Do I owe someone an apology?

I'll seriously consider any answers from regulars in this forum. Wouldn't hang my personal business on a hay rack in the Lounge where snarkiness might result. I've got that base too well covered myself.

Here's what happened. A handyman and his wife, with whom I've been on excellent terms ever since I met them, encountered an even worse life event than usual that threatened to sink their ship. Since I have a standing repair list in their care and I did (and still do) trust them - at least basically - I offered an advance on the next job, which we all expected to commence fairly soon.

That was around a month ago, as it turned out. When my pipes froze AGAIN this year about a week ago and the burst-proof Pax pipe hadn't been installed, I called in a panic TWICE and left a message but heard nothing. I'm fortunate in that they haven't burst because I caught the situation barely in time and put little heaters under the upstairs and downstairs sinks. The cold water pipes never even froze; the hot water pipes froze but haven't burst, I know that for sure. They occasionally even drip a bit. They just won't flow.

With cold water for cooking and flushing, I've hung on for a week even though I can't take a real bath. And I must confess that the more my body stinks, the more my attitude and spirits do too. Eventually I got frantic and popped off on my FB page about it. I use a fake name since it's a public page although my RL friends know who I actually am.

The handyman's wife wanted to be FB friends too, and I told her from the beginning that nobody else in town even knew about the page so she shouldn't tell anyone, plus as always I suggested she not follow me because that would crowd her page with my political news feed which neither she nor her friends would enjoy. So far as I know, she kept the bargain until now.

However, she did decide to read my timeline at some point when she and her husband were incommunicado for a week. As you might've guessed by now, the one thread I started about my frustration and panic had to be probably the only one she ever bothered to read. Of course I didn't mention them by name and most people have no idea where I live, so my complaint had no reasonable chance of causing them public embarrassment where we live. I merely mentioned the sudden and lengthy absence and since I really was pissed off too, I wondered if it had anything to do with the fact that in reality, at the moment HE owed ME $.

It seems to be the last comment that got him mad, and I know perfectly well he never would've known what I said in discreet fashion if his wife hadn't told him. I don't think she should've done that. I wasn't pleased when he finally did call me and fuss because I could possibly think so ill of him even for a minute. Even after I assured him his wife was the only person in town who knows about the FB account and I certainly don't go around discussing my personal business with the people who live here. After he accepted that I wasn't trash talking him to the neighbors, he was still mad that I'd think ill of him at all. I said he needed to understand that leaving me in limbo and not answering either of the two messages I left on their home phone gave me reasonable cause to wonder, and I had no intention of apologizing for the fact that I panicked and popped off in the most discreet manner available to me. Also that I would not be put in a position of calling 3+ times as he expected me to because that would put me in a position of begging and/or nagging. Regardless of other faults, I don't indulge in those two. I was raised to ask once and not twice. Calling him twice had exceeded my normal limit by 100%.

But since I was really upset by that time, sniffly (not shouting - I've only done that but VERY rarely in my life and never at him) enough to say I couldn't handle any more right now and would be hanging up, he backtracked a little and about 5 minutes later called back with a near-apology. I didn't feel like I owed him one at all and didn't offer any either, although I readily agreed to a cease fire. He's promising now to come over tomorrow with the salamander. No word on when my pipes might get replaced though.

I don't want to pretend I MIGHT apologize for my FB comments which were expected to remain unknown to them and should have remained so. But I'd be more than interested in hearing feedback on what the members of this group believe I should do. Might prove beneficial if there's ever another such occasion. Although I readily agreed to the cease fire and the guy eventually said he didn't see why any of this should affect our friendship, I don't know how it could not. I'm sure we can be cordial and all that now, but breach of the trust that undergirded our friendship might be irreparable.

Truth to tell, I'm also rather dreading the visit tomorrow (if it actually happens).

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Do I owe someone an apology? (Original Post) IrishAyes Jan 2015 OP
If he comes tomorrow, okasha Jan 2015 #1
Thank you. IrishAyes Jan 2015 #2
I don't see any reason for you to apologize. okasha Jan 2015 #3
I don't see any reason for you to apologize either. Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #4
I agree with Okasha. No Vested Interest Jan 2015 #6
Nothing good comes from facebook. rug Jan 2015 #5

okasha

(11,573 posts)
1. If he comes tomorrow,
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jan 2015

be cordial, take up where you left off before the FB incident and let current differences fade. A good handyman is worth his weight in gold.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
2. Thank you.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jan 2015

Believe me, I don't intend to tangle or argue. I just won't apologize when I don't believe I'm wrong either. Yes, good handymen ARE worth their weight in gold - if they show up.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
6. I agree with Okasha.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jan 2015

Just be affable, as though the phone conversation had not taken place.
Go about your business, take any emotionalism out of the transaction.
Thank him for coming, then for his work when completed.
Men, and all people for that matter, love to feel appreciated.

You'll never know how his wife conveyed the Facebook message. Even intonation makes a difference, as we all know.

Good luck with the pipes.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. Nothing good comes from facebook.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jan 2015

He should've returned your calls.

But the only thing I would apologize for is having a facebook account.

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