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Richard D

(9,404 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:19 PM Feb 2024

It is really getting ugly on campuses. Antisemitism in full force at UC Berkely (and other schools.)

Last edited Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:54 PM - Edit history (1)

Violence erupts at UC BERKELEY. Violent protesters assault, Jewish students, scream, dirty, Jew, spit in their faces, break windows, and chanted to “Globalize the Intifada”

Jewish students do NOT feel safe:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C32hKwOOuD7/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

On a personal note, my niece is leaving the country because she can no longer go to University and feel safe.

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It is really getting ugly on campuses. Antisemitism in full force at UC Berkely (and other schools.) (Original Post) Richard D Feb 2024 OP
Why arent students just being expelled? getagrip_already Feb 2024 #1
You're right. The administrators are cowards, not unlike the antisemitic UC Davis professor JohnSJ Feb 2024 #5
That one asshole screaming like a lunatic, "We're civil". Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #2
That is just plain crazy. I don't get how this exploded so fast and so fisciously. Biophilic Feb 2024 #3
f**k THEM. This isn't about the Israel/Palestinian issue, this is anti_Jewish hatred, and I am JohnSJ Feb 2024 #4
Where will your niece go? progressoid Feb 2024 #6
Israel n/t Richard D Feb 2024 #7
When did this happen? SharonClark Feb 2024 #8
Yesterday Richard D Feb 2024 #10
Yesterday Richard D Feb 2024 #11
Since October, Israel has been working overtime to make people angry. How anyone could be surprised by demonstrations Chainfire Feb 2024 #9
This is a Jewish Forum! There are plenty of other forums where you can express your hatred! question everything Feb 2024 #12
Your post is offensive to me. I am simply pointing out the obvious. Israel has lost friends due to this "war." Chainfire Feb 2024 #13
"Israel has lost friends due to this "war" Richard D Feb 2024 #15
Allow me to interject. Of course Istael has the right to defend itself and to get the hostages back... brush Feb 2024 #26
This is where the antisemetic trope of blood libel comes into play Richard D Feb 2024 #28
Maybe after being warned months before Oct. 7 that a big attack was coming, Netanyahu's government... brush Feb 2024 #30
Yeah, that is . . . Richard D Feb 2024 #31
THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #32
It's not anti-Israel. It's anti-warmonger Netanyahu. Israel can do better. brush Feb 2024 #33
NOT THE TOPIC! Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #34
Block me from what? brush Feb 2024 #35
This group! Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #36
Poster Richard D bought up the war. I responded. brush Feb 2024 #37
And I have told you to STOP. Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #38
Come on, be fair. Did you tell Richard D it was not the topic? brush Feb 2024 #39
You are done. Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #40
There are several good analysis of this. Richard D Feb 2024 #41
That poster is no longer allowed to post here. Behind the Aegis Feb 2024 #42
Thank you. Richard D Feb 2024 #43
Thank you ❤️ JudyM Feb 2024 #44
But an American Student JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #21
Exactly. Richard D Feb 2024 #29
Fuck Gaza Lucky Luciano Feb 2024 #19
Idiots. byronius Feb 2024 #14
They are . . . Richard D Feb 2024 #16
anti-semetic or anti-israel? i am very anti-netanfuckyou + his ilk. pansypoo53219 Feb 2024 #17
So you're ok... Richard D Feb 2024 #18
Absolutely. Netanyahu is a warmonger and Israel needs to kick his corrupt ass to the curb. brush Feb 2024 #27
UCB is one campus, not plural as you espouse. TeamProg Feb 2024 #20
This is happening JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #22
Yeah. Richard D Feb 2024 #25
RichardD JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #23
Thank you. Richard D Feb 2024 #24

getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
1. Why arent students just being expelled?
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:23 PM
Feb 2024

I don't see how this is acceptable under any semblance of student behavior or school policy.

Toss them.

JohnSJ

(96,776 posts)
5. You're right. The administrators are cowards, not unlike the antisemitic UC Davis professor
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:35 PM
Feb 2024

threatening Jewish journalists.

Where is the media follow-up on that.

Behind the Aegis

(54,901 posts)
2. That one asshole screaming like a lunatic, "We're civil".
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:26 PM
Feb 2024

Like apartheid, genocide, colonialism, and several other words, we can add "civil" to the ever-growing list of words these bigots/enablers/propagandists, do NOT understand or misuse! No doubt several court Jews were lined up to provide cover.

Biophilic

(4,904 posts)
3. That is just plain crazy. I don't get how this exploded so fast and so fisciously.
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:27 PM
Feb 2024

Obviously, a lot of help from trolls and Russia, but there also must have been some underground feelings about this for some time. We are no more advanced than people in the Middle Ages and no better than Germans in the 30s. I am really appalled by the antisemitism.

JohnSJ

(96,776 posts)
4. f**k THEM. This isn't about the Israel/Palestinian issue, this is anti_Jewish hatred, and I am
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 03:31 PM
Feb 2024

really tired of any apologists who defend this bullshit.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
9. Since October, Israel has been working overtime to make people angry. How anyone could be surprised by demonstrations
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 05:13 PM
Feb 2024

is amazing to me. I would just suggest that you compare the damage being done on campus with the damage being done in Gaza, then decide who is "over the top." I damn violence against Jews, but I don't condone Israeli violence against Palestinian citizens either. I am funny like that, I value all human life.

question everything

(48,974 posts)
12. This is a Jewish Forum! There are plenty of other forums where you can express your hatred!
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 05:57 PM
Feb 2024

Please delete.

And if your are trying to distinguish between “anti Israel” and antisemitism, please!

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
13. Your post is offensive to me. I am simply pointing out the obvious. Israel has lost friends due to this "war."
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 06:49 PM
Feb 2024

If you disagree with that, don't talk about my "hatred" argue with what I said. I think that your proposition that one can not be both anti the actions of the Isreali government without being anti-Semetic is false.

Richard D

(9,404 posts)
15. "Israel has lost friends due to this "war"
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:23 PM
Feb 2024

We're supposed to be polite, so I will not say what I want to say.

Please ask yourself the question: Who the fuck started this "war," and why the fuck do you put war into quotation marks?

By asking the question, you automatically assume that Israel does not have 1. the right to defend itself and 2. the mandate to get the hostages released.

I'm sorry, your antisemitism is oozing out all over the post.

brush

(57,943 posts)
26. Allow me to interject. Of course Istael has the right to defend itself and to get the hostages back...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:32 PM
Feb 2024

but Israel does not have the right to over-retaliate to the extent of having killed 30,000 plus and counting Palestiniians vs the 1200 Israelis killed on Oct. 7.

That ratio amounts to 22 Palestinian lives to 1 Israeli life. Are you good with that?

I have to say THAT IS OVER RETALIATION.

When is Israel going to get rid of warmonger Netanyaku.

Why just TODAY 104 starving Palestinians were killed by IDF forces when they swarmed around a food truck. The IDF forces, apparently feeling threatened, opened fire on the starving people. Turn on your TV, it's all over the news today.

Israel needs to get rid of warmonger Netanyahu and maybe these tragic incidents don't happen to add to the already outrageous amount of over-retaliation done by Netanyahu's IDF.

And please, don't accuse me of antisemitism because I point out obvious over-retaliation.

Richard D

(9,404 posts)
28. This is where the antisemetic trope of blood libel comes into play
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:01 PM
Feb 2024

In assuming that it is retaliation. It isn't. It is and remains self-defense.

But assume it is retaliation for a second, putting aside the absurdity of that idea. Should Israel have then killed 1200 Palestinians and held hostage 130? Further, should they have gang-raped, sexually tortured, mutilated, burned and shot on the face the exact same number of civilians as Hamas did on Oct 7?

This is an existential fight. Hamas has promised that they will do it again and again and again . . .

Think about that. What would you be willing to do to protect your loved ones from being sexually tortured and gang raped and murdered?

I am good with the hostages being released. Hamas could do that and the killing would end. But they are not doing that.

In lieu of that, Hamas being utterly and totally destroyed sounds just fine.

Oh, by the way, was it excessive retaliation when the Allied forces killed over a million German citizens to bring down the Nazis:?

brush

(57,943 posts)
30. Maybe after being warned months before Oct. 7 that a big attack was coming, Netanyahu's government...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:12 PM
Feb 2024

should've re-enforced its border with Gaza. And what about the still unexplained, hours-long delay in respond to the Hamas attack by the IDF?

What's up with that? Aren't you curious why it took so long for the IDF to respond?

Get rid of the warmonger that is Netanyahu who wants the war to continue as long as possible so his corrupt ass doesn't go to jail.

Richard D

(9,404 posts)
31. Yeah, that is . . .
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:14 PM
Feb 2024

. . . the current propaganda. I haven't the bandwidth to get into it yet, but if you look, you'll find explanations,

Behind the Aegis

(54,901 posts)
32. THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:15 PM
Feb 2024

You are walking a VERY fine line. The OP is about anti-Semitism RELATED to "protests". DO NOT turn this into an anti-Israel rant, you have an ENTIRE DU board in which to do that. The Jewish Group is NOT for positing anti-Israel theories or blaming Israel or Jews for anti-Semitism.

This is your first and last warning.

Behind the Aegis

(54,901 posts)
38. And I have told you to STOP.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:29 PM
Feb 2024

Post again. Try me.

It was CHAINFIRE who initially brought it up and then you "interjected". Chainfire has been blocked form this group.

JustAnotherGen

(33,732 posts)
21. But an American Student
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:42 PM
Feb 2024

Who is Jewish - is not responsible for what happened on any level.

Why use Israel as an excuse blame the victim - your fellow American?

Lucky Luciano

(11,456 posts)
19. Fuck Gaza
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 09:00 PM
Feb 2024

Until they say unequivocally that they are opposed to Hamas, they are guilty And deserve every bit of the retribution.

byronius

(7,634 posts)
14. Idiots.
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:18 PM
Feb 2024

I grew up in Saudi, and traveled all over the Middle East. What I was exposed to in the heart of Islam was horrifying — public beheadings, religious violence, academics thrown into prison for life, beatings —

These idiots know nothing of what they support. Islam is great at covering over their crimes while vilifying Jews, and these young dolts are buying it.

A few days with the mullahs would change their minds. The land is gorgeous — Islam is a primitive madness.

Richard D

(9,404 posts)
16. They are . . .
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 07:57 PM
Feb 2024

. . . useful idiots, doing the bidding of evil and self-convinced that they are somehow righteous. They are not.

brush

(57,943 posts)
27. Absolutely. Netanyahu is a warmonger and Israel needs to kick his corrupt ass to the curb.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:37 PM
Feb 2024

He wants to keep the war going as long as he can to stay out of jail. He is as much an obstacle to peace, hostage release and two-state solution negotiations as is Hamas.

JustAnotherGen

(33,732 posts)
22. This is happening
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:44 PM
Feb 2024

in many campuses across the country -

If we keep our America in November - history will look at these anti-semitic attacks the same way we do people screaming at black University Integrators in the 1950's and 1960's.

JustAnotherGen

(33,732 posts)
23. RichardD
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:48 PM
Feb 2024

I'm so sorry your niece is going through this. What is she? 18, 19, 20? As if SHE and she alone is responsible for what is going on in Gaza right now. This is the same old blood libel - just modernized.

The arrogance of evil says - the evil can be blase and blame the victim. They do it all of the time.

Richard D

(9,404 posts)
24. Thank you.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:52 PM
Feb 2024

It is painful for them both. They do love their lives here but know enough about history to know that the chances of things getting bloody are pretty high.

I don't know her exact age, but around 20.

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