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Thinker Cats

(54 posts) Sat Jul 26, 2025, 02:50 PM Jul 2025

(Jewish Group) A Gaza Cease-fire Isn't Letting Hamas Win. It's Israel's Only Way to Come Out on Top

Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a movement – rooted in resistance to Israel, driven by ideology, sustained by destruction. But above all, it's a sophisticated propaganda machine that weaponizes information itself. Hamas doesn't seek victory in the conventional sense. It seeks survival, symbolism and story. And it has mastered the art of narrative warfare to ensure any Israeli response generates compelling victim narratives.

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Israel cannot define itself by Hamas' propaganda. It must define itself by its values. And those values are that we leave no one behind.

Gaza has paid a terrible price. Its people see destruction everywhere. Whether they blame Hamas or Israel is secondary. What matters is what comes next. If there's a chance to shape Gaza's future, it begins with an act of conscience now. End the war.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-24/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-gaza-cease-fire-isnt-letting-hamas-win-its-israels-only-way-to-come-out-on-top/00000198-3bd9-d96b-a5ff-ffd9930f0000?gift=673dfb5b01d7491fbe7216bd60960914

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(Jewish Group) A Gaza Cease-fire Isn't Letting Hamas Win. It's Israel's Only Way to Come Out on Top (Original Post) Thinker Cats Jul 2025 OP

As long as Netanyahyu remains in power in Israel, and Hamas remains in power in Gaza, nothing is going to lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #1

Well, you could say... Grins Jul 2025 #2

Arguing about one sentence of the article Thinker Cats Jul 2025 #3

I think there was a different motivation involved, and it wasn't about the article. lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #5

No it isn't. Modern Israel was from the UN and British partition as a lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #4

That poster is no longer posting. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #6

Just as well. lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #7

lostincalifornia

(5,535 posts)

1. As long as Netanyahyu remains in power in Israel, and Hamas remains in power in Gaza, nothing is going to

Reply to Thinker Cats (Original post)

Sat Jul 26, 2025, 03:03 PM

Jul 2025

change. Neither Netanyahyu nor Hamas want to give up power, regardless of the results, even if that meant the destruction of either one.

Grins

(9,523 posts)

2. Well, you could say...

Reply to Thinker Cats (Original post)

Sat Jul 26, 2025, 05:55 PM

Jul 2025

Isn’t Israel also “a movement – rooted in resistance to Palestine , driven by ideology, sustained by destruction?”

Bibi - and the Likud - have become the ugly face of Israel.

Thinker Cats

(54 posts)

3. Arguing about one sentence of the article

Reply to Grins (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 26, 2025, 06:13 PM

Jul 2025

We could argue about one sentence in the article, but I don't think it would be productive. If you've moved beyond that sentence and read the entire article, great.

lostincalifornia

(5,535 posts)

5. I think there was a different motivation involved, and it wasn't about the article.

Reply to Thinker Cats (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 26, 2025, 06:19 PM

Jul 2025

lostincalifornia

(5,535 posts)

4. No it isn't. Modern Israel was from the UN and British partition as a

Reply to Grins (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 26, 2025, 06:17 PM

Jul 2025

Jewish State.

This is the Jewish group and you really shouldn’t try to reframe history to your own bias.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)

6. That poster is no longer posting.

Reply to lostincalifornia (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:41 PM

Jul 2025

I think the colloquial expression is that they're "enjoying a pizza."

lostincalifornia

(5,535 posts)

7. Just as well.

Reply to Oopsie Daisy (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:53 AM

Jul 2025

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