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Related: About this forum(Jewish Group) If You Are Defending Stephen Miller, You Are an Ally of Anti-Semitism
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/04/ilhan-omar-is-right-stephen-miller-is-a-white-nationalist.html?__twitter_impression=trueLee Zeldin did not object to these remarks. In his view, it was not anti-Semitic (or even irresponsible) for the president to suggest that a wealthy Jew was orchestrating an invasion of the United States, using nonwhite immigrants as his shock troops even though the president was saying such things just days after a neo-Nazi had murdered 11 people in a Pittsburgh synagogue because he believed that Jews were orchestrating an invasion of the United States, using nonwhite immigrants as their shock troops. Instead, Zeldin chose to demonstrate his solidarity with American Jews last fall by inviting Steve Bannon to headline one of his campaign events.
It is worth noting that even if Trumps revanchist nativism didnt contain traces of anti-Semitism, it would remain a form of politics that endangers Diaspora Jews. Jewish reactionaries like Stephen Miller might be able to assimilate to the form of Americanism that Trump champions. But the vast majority of American Jews are liberal, cosmopolitan, and secularist. Which is to say: They are the globalist villains in Trumpisms Manichaean fable of American decline.
And even if Trumps politics did not endanger Jews, anyone who has ever uttered never again in earnest would still be obliged to oppose him. If you are a Jew who has zero tolerance for anti-Semitism but infinite tolerance for a president who describes immigrants as an infestation, and directs extrajudicial cruelty at their children then you arent so different from the Nazis apologists. You share their conviction that some populations are entitled to basic rights, while others are not.
still_one
(92,153 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)I am Jewish and I want to disown Stephen Miller as a member of the tribe. Can we vote him off the Island?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)He should not be counted among the members of any human tribe and should be voted off all islands everywhere. He's a monster.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)It must be awful to have Stephen Miller in your family.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Link to tweet
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Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)It is a Jewish slang
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)(I guess I just showed I'm not a MOT. But I'm glad to see Miller being shunned by his own family. He deserves it.)
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)No, someone defending Miller is not a goddamned ally of anti-Semitism. An "ally" of anti-Semitism is someone who ignores anti-Semitism when it comes from their side of the political fence. The author even gives and example with Zeldin, a Jew. What this opinion is really about is the fact there are some Jews who are bad people...NO SHIT! What this author and MANY people seem to be missing is the anti-Semitism directed at Miller, such as calling him the "puppet-master", a centuries old trope, all this does is reinforce anti-Semitic beliefs that all the ills of the world (or US policy) can be traced back to a single Jew, who then represents all Jews. Soros anyone? Anyone remember the calls of Soros as puppet-master?! Yes?! That was ALSO anti-Semitism, but it was coming from the right and few, very few, from the right called it out, but the left pounced all over it...and now some, are using the same fucking ANTI-SEMITIC stereotype.
Miller is scum. Miller is a supremacist. Miller is a POS. But he is also a Jew and attacking him by using anti-Semitic stereotypes is BIGOTRY!
The allies of anti-Semitism are ones who breathlessly ignore anti-Semitism from their own side and parade around the sins of the other. The allies of anti-Semitism who mock anti-Semitism with bullshit comments like "well those in Israel who voted against Bibi, are they anti-Semites too?". The allies of anti-Semitism are those who hold up their "Jew friend" to cover up their own anti-Semitic missteps. The allies of anti-Semitism are the Jews who allow themselves to be used to defend anti-Semitism. The allies of anti-Semitism are the ones who constantly downplay or outright ignore anti-Semitism because "other forms of bigotry are more pressing". The allies of anti-Semitism are the ones who don't know what anti-Semitism is and insist on telling Jews what it is and isn't.
Those defending Miller are not "allies of anti-Semitism", they may be assholes and in some cases misusing anti-Semitism for political gain, but then again anti-Semitism has become a football in the political arena. And in all of it, the ones who are left out, forgotten and left to defend against anti-Semitism are the Jews, and maybe just a small handful of open-minded, true allies!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I meant no harm of course. I hope the author got similar feedback to yours.
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)Frankly, I count you as one the TRUE allies against anti-Semitism here.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I was so horrified when Trump did not readily condemn the neo-Nazis who paraded in Charlottesville and whose member killed that poor woman.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Miller is not a nice guy. He's a bad guy.
He's still not a "white supremacist" as alleged by an actual anti-Semites like a certain Congressperson who called him such.
11cents
(1,777 posts)As far back as high school, he was a blatant, proud racist. He pushes for policies and rhetoric that demonize nonwhites, are racially exclusionary, and are celebrated by white supremacists -- and antisemites. So yes he's a white supremacist, yes he's an enabler of open antisemitism on the right, and there's no reason not to say so. It's not as if "white supremacist" is an antisemitic trope.