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Behind the Aegis

(53,934 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 12:14 AM Apr 2020

(Jewish Group) A census question poses a dilemma for American Jews

(THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP! RESPECT!!)

A census question poses a dilemma for American Jews — are you white, and if so, what are your ‘origins’?

It’s the ninth question on the census, and for many Jewish respondents, it’s a surprising — and sometimes unwelcome — invitation to consider who exactly they are.

For the first time, the U.S. Census question on race is asking white and African-American respondents to dig deeper and fill in more detailed origins.

“Mark one or more boxes AND print origins,” the printed form says. For white, it adds, “Print, for example, German, Irish, English, Italian, Lebanese, Egyptian, etc.”

The request for “origins” has existed for decades for Native American, Hispanic and Asian/Pacific Islander respondents. But whites and blacks were previously asked to simply check a box.

The question has launched countless Jewish conversations: “What did you list?” “What should I?”

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Two of my brothers should be able to put Irish, Scottish, British, French, and Ashkenazi Jew (49%).

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(Jewish Group) A census question poses a dilemma for American Jews (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 OP
I printed "FUCK ALL Y'ALL" in that space. n/t TygrBright Apr 2020 #1
😹 Meowmee Apr 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Meowmee Apr 2020 #11
I see GeoWilliam750 Apr 2020 #13
Northern European works for Ashkenazi. Fuck them if they want more. hedda_foil Apr 2020 #2
Actually, no, Northern European doesn't work for Ashkenazi. Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 #6
I put American Historic NY Apr 2020 #3
I put down Rincewind Apr 2020 #4
I don't recall seeing this question. Mosby Apr 2020 #5
It was one of the first questions. Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 #7
Embarrassment is not the issue MosheFeingold Apr 2020 #8
For some, it certainly is embarrassment . Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 #9
Yep would not answer that one none of their biz, just put the human race nt Meowmee Apr 2020 #12

Response to TygrBright (Reply #1)

Behind the Aegis

(53,934 posts)
7. It was one of the first questions.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

I filled ours out on-line, so I am not sure how the paper one looks. The first question, I think, was about marital status, which thrilled me because I, for the first time EVER, could be counted as "married."

I think this is an interesting situation for many Jews, as many do not see themselves as anything but "white". If you have relatives which are Ashkenazi or Sephardic, then I think those are legitimate "ethnic groups" as Arab, Syrian, Irish, French, or what have you. I, too, understand why some are hesitant to answer such questions, especially given our current administration, but I also see a value in seeing the true breakdown as to what it is to be an American, which is a rich tapestry of identities, but why some are seemingly embarrassed by their Jewishness is disappointing to me.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
8. Embarrassment is not the issue
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:43 AM
Apr 2020

For a long time the census requests in Europe asked this question — with a specific line for Jews.

Like then, your answer can and will be used against you.

You have a right to remain silent.

From experience, I encourage everyone, of every race, creed, and color to use it.

Behind the Aegis

(53,934 posts)
9. For some, it certainly is embarrassment .
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 03:43 AM
Apr 2020

However, I can see the point you are making and have seen it as a serious concern, especially with this administration.

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