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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:15 AM Oct 2012

Australian governmental agency is involved in creating new super Gm wheat

it sounds scarey as heck to me:

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gm-wheat-may-damage-human-genetics-permanently

As someone who is now totally intolerant to Gm wheat, I am alarmed at how quickly (and without any type of review), these new Gm products are flooding the farmlands of the world.

And of course, vast segments of our population claim they have no problem with Gm food - but they have to ingest Prilosec and other expensive over the counter meds in order to get through a single day of eating American Frankenfoods.

It is a win-win for the Big Agri Firms - many of whom are subsidiaries of the Big Pharma industries, or vice versa.
So one end of the business makes you sick, and the other end of the business attempts to keep you around as a consumer a little bit longer.

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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
2. We don't have TJ in our area, but
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:26 AM
Oct 2012

Grocery Outlet has a lot of organic foods. But I really have to avoid wheat, it's too much of a risk for me. They say that in any purchase of any amount of "organic" wheat, it is likely that at least 15% of the wheat is Gm. Can't be helped - far too many of our farming acreage is already Gm wheat, and the pollen spreads, like, well, pollen.

Although if I ever get to France, I will gladly consume the non-Gm croissants that their restrictions on Gm seeds allows them to have there in abundance!

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
3. I knew that a lot of corn and soybeans are gmo, but not so much of wheat.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:32 AM
Oct 2012

TJ is expanding and you might get a store near you soon.

mathematic

(1,434 posts)
8. USDA says no GM wheat is commercially grown in the US
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
Oct 2012

I've seen other sources (from 2008-9) say no GM wheat is commercially grown anywhere. This directly contradicts your various claims about the existence of GM wheat in the foods you eat and your intolerance to GM wheat.

It's safe to say your entire characterization of the issue looks completely fabricated. What are the sources for your statements?

aquart

(69,014 posts)
4. Are they trying for climate change resistant wheat?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:10 AM
Oct 2012

Because the US might want to get in on that.

And the nasty choice may be to let the altered-wheat intolerant die off so they can feed the survivors.

We don't yet know how big an issue trying-not-to-become-extinct will be.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. Uh aquart, maybe you don't understand what food intolerance is and how it comes about
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

Intolerance to various (or singular) food groups comes about because people are designed by nature herself to consume foods with certain definite enzymatic structures.

Allergist specialists (those with the PhD or MD after their name) are very aware that ethnic considerations are important in looking at an individual's likelihood of being intolerant of one or more food situations. People need time for their bodies to relate to changes in their diet. And one researcher has said that to accommodate the changes in genetic modification, the average human being would need to live for the length of 125,000 generations of lifetimes to process what is being done to foods we eat. (Don't have that person's name floating about in my memory base of my brain, but could get it for you if you want.)

For instance, both peoples of African ethnicity, Native American and Scandinavian ethnicity are more likely to be allergic or intolerant of wheat. You can especially see this in African American women that are so heavy set - they are trying to eat a diet that contains wheat, when that grain was not part of their genetic code's diet until they arrived here in the USA some four hundred years ago. (I have often thought if someone would make Oprah aware of this, she might not yoyo in her weight so crazily. When you are sensitive to wheat, even a single pancake can make you bloat up and have water retention. I can go up one dress size just from eating that pancake in the 24 hours after I eat that food - if it is wheat flour.)

And about Scandinavians, The reason: Scandinavians were meat eaters until very recently relative to humankind's history- in some ares of Lappland, seal blubber, whale fish and reindeer are still the main dietary items available.

Now that the enzymatic properties of wheat and other grains are being altered by genetic modification - everyone is at risk. You need to make yourself aware of what Don Huber has been saying. (This researcher was, until retirement, Monsanto's foremost researcher into grains.) Now he is saying that the way the soil is altered and the crops are altered by genetic manipulation and the need for spraying RoundUp that the crops are far more likely to have fusarium and other molds/fungal entities in them.

All of us humans are susceptible to mold. (Okay, there may be .05% of the population that isn't - just like all of us know of or may have heard of one human who wasn't susceptible to other toxins. Great Uncle Harry who lived on vermouth, Jack Daniels and Marlboros, and died at age of 96, etc.)

Anyway I am fairly convinced that most people are seriously affected by wheat. (On edit: Gm wheat and Gm grains of all types.) They are able to purchase Prilosec and other "aids" so they can continue to eat "normally" and somewhat feel alive. But people's bodies cannot withstand what "science" is doing to the food supply. And do any of us want to live inside a world where the animals and insects and birds have all been killed off by these changes? These critters don't have Prilosec available to them.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
6. Uh, not an answer to my question.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

You seem upset that we grow wheat at all. I'm worried that billions will die because we CAN'T grow wheat. So I asked if the reason for the gene manipulation was preparation for climate change.

A yes or no answer would have been fine.

I'm going to assume you don't know.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. The main reason, since you want to know, for the Big Agri Firms to genetically modify the
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:51 PM
Oct 2012

Seeds is for profits. Pure and simple.

They often have reasons that their spokespeople announce to the public, but in the end, researchers looking into those claims find most of those other reasons to be bogus.

Whether a claim is being made regarding this particular instance of genetic modification by the Australian governmental agency as the genetic modifications having some relationship to drought or not, I don't know.

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