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Beachwood

(106 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:44 AM Feb 2014

You Share 98.7 Percent of Your DNA With This Sex-Obsessed Ape

And so do creationists.

So in sum: Genetic evidence shows clearly that while orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and bonobos have 24 chromosome pairs, humans and our closest extinct ancestors (Neanderthals and Denisovans) have 23. And we know why that is: In modern humans and these other hominins, chromosome 2 shows clear genetic evidence of a fusion event that must have happened after our lineage split from chimpanzees and bonobos, but before our divergence with Neanderthals and Denisovans. The proof is right there in the DNA.

Faced with this, those who call themselves creationists are in a pretty uncomfortable position. Their bodies' own cells prove them wrong.


Fascinating article about our (and Neanderthal's) evolutionary divergence and just what it is and how we can see it.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/evolution-creationism-bonobos-neanderthals-denisovans-chromosome-two
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You Share 98.7 Percent of Your DNA With This Sex-Obsessed Ape (Original Post) Beachwood Feb 2014 OP
Fun! But . . Brainstormy Feb 2014 #1
Its a reference to research already out there on Bonobos Beachwood Feb 2014 #2
well, ok, but Brainstormy Feb 2014 #5
I agree. It was a poor headline grabber. n/t Beachwood Feb 2014 #6
From documentaries I've seen FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #8
Hey, according to Wikipedia Brainstormy Feb 2014 #9
I think Chimps are a lot meaner libodem Feb 2014 #3
I guess it's because fundies are not interested in hearing that all animals on the planet are Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #4
Well, bonobos ARE sex obsessed. longship Feb 2014 #7
The difference between a computer program that runs and one that does not... Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #10
Welll that's an interesting analogy. Beachwood Feb 2014 #11
Yes, it is a lot of information. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #12
Yeah. All it takes is one out of place semicolon Tien1985 Feb 2014 #13
k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Feb 2014 #15
Who? Me? nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #16

Brainstormy

(2,532 posts)
1. Fun! But . .
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:49 AM
Feb 2014

I don't get the "sex-obsessed" reference in the headline. Except for the information about Bonobos "using sex, rather than violence, to resolve conflicts"--and how is that a bad thing? I don't see what's there to indicate that the apes are especially sex-obsessed.

Brainstormy

(2,532 posts)
5. well, ok, but
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:33 PM
Feb 2014

seems to me there's a lot of room between "sexual' and "sex-obsessed." Until the apes get into pornography, prostitution, S&M, sex slavery, etc., etc., I'm inclined to think that we're the ones who are obsessed.

Thanks for the link. Interesting!

Brainstormy

(2,532 posts)
9. Hey, according to Wikipedia
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

homosexual behavior has been observed in about 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them. (Although, to be fair, the Wiki acknowledges that such behavior is seen as "controversial" among social conservatives. )

ROFLMAO

libodem

(19,288 posts)
3. I think Chimps are a lot meaner
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:22 AM
Feb 2014

Bonobos have many behaviors that are affectionate and they stimulate each other for fun. Seems like they mount each other for dominance, too. Look them up.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
4. I guess it's because fundies are not interested in hearing that all animals on the planet are
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:37 AM
Feb 2014

related and because fundies like to pretend they don't like sex.

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
10. The difference between a computer program that runs and one that does not...
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:21 PM
Feb 2014

...can be a single line of code. "Sharing" DNA does not make humans more ape-like and it does not make me think of apes as more human.

 

Beachwood

(106 posts)
11. Welll that's an interesting analogy.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014

I never quite thought of DNA that way.

You realize we have about 32 million lines of DNA code, right?

And 01.3 % of that is a heck of a lot of lines of code.

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