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eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:55 PM Sep 2014

Giant laser observatory makes progress (BBC) {LIGO, seeking gravity waves}

By Maria Dasi Espuig
Science reporter, Birmingham

The Advanced Ligo instrument, a laser "ruler" built to measure the traces of gravitational waves, is progressing at amazing speed, scientists say.

The first generation of Ligo, which ran between 2001 and 2010, saw nothing.

Over the last four years scientists have designed a more sensitive detector that achieved "full lock" in June this year, earlier than planned.

Researchers reported that the new one is already 30% more precise and will start scanning the sky in summer 2015.

Ligo (Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory) operates in two sites in the US, one in Livingston, Louisiana, and another one in Hanford, Washington.
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more: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29168676

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Giant laser observatory makes progress (BBC) {LIGO, seeking gravity waves} (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Sep 2014 OP
Damn. I can't wait. Hoppy Sep 2014 #1
Damn. I can't wait. Seriously. Peace Patriot Sep 2014 #2
Like I said,..... Hoppy Sep 2014 #3
Yeah, it's not like radio research would lead to a new way of cooking or anything. jeff47 Sep 2014 #4
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
1. Damn. I can't wait.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:26 PM
Sep 2014

How much did this one cost us and will it help us beat the Gema.... sorry, the Russi... sorry, the Chinese?

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
2. Damn. I can't wait. Seriously.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:43 AM
Sep 2014

This is very important research having to do with the Big Bang and the nature of the early unfolding Universe. And we may well have to wait. Some amazing discoveries have a Eureka!-like quality; others take time, long, arduous research and obsessive attention to minutiae such as very hard-to-detect gravitational waves. Read the whole article and related articles before you jump to the conclusion that this research is a waste of resources or political in nature.

For starters, read about the item they are so arduously looking for, and the power of the new laser instrument to find it:

Gravitational waves are ripples in the fabric of space and time that propagate across the Universe like sound waves do after an earthquake.

But in this case, the sources of the "tremors" are very energetic events such as supernovas (the explosion of a dying star), fast spinning neutron stars (very dense and compact stars), or the collision of black holes and neutron stars orbiting close to each other.

With Ligo's current precision, the interferometer should be able to detect gravitational waves coming from neutron star and black hole binary systems 27 megaparsecs (about 88 million light-years) away from us.

Researchers are still working on the intricate optical system and detectors within Advanced Ligo to gradually increase the precision.

"The target is to reach (a distance of) 200 megaparsecs… which is a factor of 10 better than the old detector," explained Prof Freise.

Augmenting the distance by a factor of 10 means that Ligo will scan a volume of space 1,000 times larger than before.
--from the OP


Also helpful is the context of the new theory about the Big Bang:

Cosmic inflation: Confidence lowered for Big Bang signal
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27935479

The evidence has turned out to be shaky that there was a vast inflationary episode instantly following the Big Bang--an inflationary episode that accounts for the uniformity of the universe as we look about the sky in any direction. Detecting gravitational waves would help confirm this inflationary theory.

Also, both the Ligo team and others are researching black holes themselves--looking for gravitational waves from collisions between two black holes and between black holes and other objects. You'd have to be brain dead not to be interested in black holes--the most mysterious objects in the universe. We have one right here in our own Milky Way Galaxy and there are many, many others--probably at least one in every galaxy in the universe. Here is a very helpful article on the other kinds of gravitational wave research.

Black hole collision research could also test Einstein
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-15581364

We are living in the most exciting and amazing period of physics and astronomy research ever. Personally, I find Ligo and other such research something to be proud of, as a human being and as a member of western civilization.
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
3. Like I said,.....
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:23 AM
Sep 2014

Maybe a clearer statement..

They are jerking themselves off. The questions are interesting but at what cost?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. Yeah, it's not like radio research would lead to a new way of cooking or anything.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:05 PM
Sep 2014

Oh wait....

Just because you do not see an instant benefit does not mean the research should not happen.

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