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muriel_volestrangler

(106,226 posts)
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:08 PM Dec 2015

Origins of the Irish down to mass migration, ancient DNA confirms

Scientists from Dublin and Belfast have looked deep into Ireland’s early history to discover a still-familiar pattern of migration: of stone age settlers with origins in the Fertile Crescent, and bronze age economic migrants who began a journey somewhere in eastern Europe.

The evidence has lain for more than 5,000 years in the bones of a woman farmer unearthed from a tomb in Ballynahatty, near Belfast, and in the remains of three men who lived between 3,000 and 4,000 years ago and were buried on Rathlin Island in County Antrim.
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The ancestors of the Stone Age farmers began their journey in the Bible lands, where agriculture first began, and arrived in Ireland perhaps via the southern Mediterranean. They brought with them cattle, cereals, ceramics and a tendency to black hair and brown eyes.

These settlers were followed by people, initially from the Pontic steppe of southern Russia, who knew how to mine for copper and work with gold, and who carried the genetic variant for a blood disorder called haemochromatosis, a hereditary genetic condition so common in Ireland that it is sometimes called Celtic disease.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms

The Neolithic and Bronze Age transitions were profound cultural shifts catalyzed in parts of Europe by migrations, first of early farmers from the Near East and then Bronze Age herders from the Pontic Steppe. However, a decades-long, unresolved controversy is whether population change or cultural adoption occurred at the Atlantic edge, within the British Isles. We address this issue by using the first whole genome data from prehistoric Irish individuals. A Neolithic woman (3343–3020 cal BC) from a megalithic burial (10.3× coverage) possessed a genome of predominantly Near Eastern origin. She had some hunter–gatherer ancestry but belonged to a population of large effective size, suggesting a substantial influx of early farmers to the island. Three Bronze Age individuals from Rathlin Island (2026–1534 cal BC), including one high coverage (10.5×) genome, showed substantial Steppe genetic heritage indicating that the European population upheavals of the third millennium manifested all of the way from southern Siberia to the western ocean. This turnover invites the possibility of accompanying introduction of Indo-European, perhaps early Celtic, language. Irish Bronze Age haplotypic similarity is strongest within modern Irish, Scottish, and Welsh populations, and several important genetic variants that today show maximal or very high frequencies in Ireland appear at this horizon. These include those coding for lactase persistence, blue eye color, Y chromosome R1b haplotypes, and the hemochromatosis C282Y allele; to our knowledge, the first detection of a known Mendelian disease variant in prehistory. These findings together suggest the establishment of central attributes of the Irish genome 4,000 y ago.

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/12/22/1518445113
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Origins of the Irish down to mass migration, ancient DNA confirms (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 OP
Thank you ... nenagh Dec 2015 #1
In other words, the Irish are from Syria and Russia. We begin bombing Dublin in 30 . . . leveymg Dec 2015 #2
It explains a lot, actually Warpy Dec 2015 #4
The common enemy of humanity is those who would keep us caged in place. leveymg Dec 2015 #6
Well, migrating people have always had to fight their way through Warpy Dec 2015 #7
Fascinating. KnR. nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #3
Well, if you want to be technical about it, the origins of all humans are from mass migration. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #5

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. In other words, the Irish are from Syria and Russia. We begin bombing Dublin in 30 . . .
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:43 PM
Dec 2015

It's obviously a very large conspiracy.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
4. It explains a lot, actually
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:26 PM
Dec 2015

like all the analogous words in Irish Gaelic and Chaldean and my own blood type that originated in Siberia.

The one commonality we have as humans is itchy feet, it seems. We are all descended from wanderers unless we are African Bushmen, and even they have stray genes from odd places.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. The common enemy of humanity is those who would keep us caged in place.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:23 PM
Dec 2015

That is why the current doctrine of forced Internal Displacement and refoulement of refugees are the worst human rights offenders. For gawd's sake at least allow the survivors to flee.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
7. Well, migrating people have always had to fight their way through
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:44 PM
Dec 2015

and fight for the right to stay wherever they went unless they had things to trade.

Displaced Middle Easterners from Syria and Iraq should be in the catbird seat, the first people out were the young, healthy, and well educated with plenty of ability to trade.

You're right, the doctrine of forced internal displacement is hideous and needs to be abandoned as quickly as possible.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
5. Well, if you want to be technical about it, the origins of all humans are from mass migration.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 07:41 PM
Dec 2015

Or certainly it seems that way based on what we now know.

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