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SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 04:01 PM Jun 2017

Carl Sagan's (unfortunate) accurate prediction

In a 1995 Carl Sagan wrote a book titled "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark."

Did he have a time machine or was he just that smart?

“Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.”



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Carl Sagan's (unfortunate) accurate prediction (Original Post) SCantiGOP Jun 2017 OP
Carl Sagan was one of the Centuries greatest minds, imo. Vilis Veritas Jun 2017 #1
Brilliant brilliant man.... Zoonart Jun 2017 #2
Again... Raster Jun 2017 #3
Yep! Zoonart Jun 2017 #5
Yes, a brilliant and original thinker! Too few of those show up in our world. northoftheborder Jun 2017 #16
His tone, his words, his brilliance made for a true poet scientist. Vilis Veritas Jun 2017 #20
Love Mr. Sagan TeapotInATempest Jun 2017 #4
He's out there among those... Zoonart Jun 2017 #7
Yes to both of those statements. :) TeapotInATempest Jun 2017 #9
The Republicans are doing everything in their power to usher in a new Dark Ages. n/t Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #6
one of those life changing books, imho. mopinko Jun 2017 #8
As has been said before: SCantiGOP Jun 2017 #13
He wrote about this stuff quite a bit BootinUp Jun 2017 #10
The candle flame gutters... longship Jun 2017 #11
Seems small but big to me BittyJenkins Jun 2017 #12
I was in Ithaca during the 1970s and had the great goods fortune pangaia Jun 2017 #15
not much of a prediction ... MountainFool Jun 2017 #14
Also, on pg. 237 he spoke of "a democratic government that had, temporarily at least, lost its way." Towlie Jun 2017 #17
His genius connected physical science, history, language defacto7 Jun 2017 #18
"My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge!" pokerfan Jun 2017 #19

Zoonart

(11,847 posts)
2. Brilliant brilliant man....
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jun 2017

and a stoner, who claimed to have figured out his most daunting equasions by writing them in the steam on his shower door after getting baked.

Vilis Veritas

(2,405 posts)
20. His tone, his words, his brilliance made for a true poet scientist.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jun 2017

I remember sitting captivated watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos...I still have the entire series.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
8. one of those life changing books, imho.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jun 2017

set my beliefs in stone, and made me see how everything that liberals worried about in the era of st ronnie were going to come to pass.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
13. As has been said before:
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jun 2017

Science does not have a liberal bias.

It's just that the right-wing, especially the fundamentalist right-wing, tries to present it as such.

BittyJenkins

(409 posts)
12. Seems small but big to me
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:18 PM
Jun 2017

My son went to Cornell University. When I visited him one summer, we went on a walk and I got to see Carl's house, it was sweet. My son went on to work for Cornell and JPL. He takes the pics for Opportunity and is writing the camera software for the next 2020 mission. He lives right next door to us in CA. I love Ithaca and what it creates and I think Carl would agree.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. I was in Ithaca during the 1970s and had the great goods fortune
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jun 2017

to get to hang with him at a local Japanese restaurant a few times... late into the evening...

priceless....

MountainFool

(91 posts)
14. not much of a prediction ...
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jun 2017

By 1995 we'd already had 8 years of anti-intellectualism with Reagan. Anyone else remember Nancy's obsession with astrology?

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/04/us/white-house-confirms-reagans-follow-astrology-up-to-a-point.html

Trump isn't the first anit-science idiot to occupy the White House.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
17. Also, on pg. 237 he spoke of "a democratic government that had, temporarily at least, lost its way."
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jun 2017

Ten thousand American scientists and engineers publicly
pledged they would not work on Star Wars or accept money from
the SDI organization. This provides an example of widespread
and courageous non-cooperation by scientists (at some conceivable
personal cost) with a democratic government that had,
temporarily at least, lost its way.

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If Carl Sagan were alive today he'd probably acknowledge that the government has become so completely lost that it seems hopeless that it'll ever find its way back.


defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. His genius connected physical science, history, language
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jun 2017

and human nature. Mastering those as he did gave him the ability to see the probabilities in an uncanny way. Then he communicated it so we could see his vision.

He'll always be a hero to me.

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