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Related: About this forumFiber Supported Amino Acidate Functionalized Ionic Liquid Gels for Direct Air CO2 Capture.
The paper I'll discuss in this post is this one: Hollow Fiber-Type Facilitated Transport Membrane Composed of a Polymerized Ionic Liquid-Based Gel Layer with Amino Acidate as the CO2 Carrier (Hideto Matsuyama et al. Ind. Eng. Chem. Res. 2020, 59, 5, 2083-2092)
This paper caught my eye because it has in its introductory text a "by 2100" statement that's quite different than all those I've been hearing my whole adult life about so called "renewable energy." I first started hearing these when I was effectively a child - since I was a gullible sort well into my twenties - about how "by 2000" we'd live in a renewable energy nirvana.
We don't.
The fastest growing source of energy on this planet in this century has been coal, despite all the "coal is dead" rhetoric that flies around among the other distortions one hears in these times of the celebration of the lie, Trumpian and otherwise. So called "renewable energy" remains what it has been since the early 20th century (when its abandonment was nearly complete), a trivial form of energy.
One doesn't see much blunt realism, even in the primary scientific literature, but this paper has it. To wit, from the introductory text:
I have put in bold the realistic statement.
It's realistic because we are no where near close to doing anything effective to address climate change. We'd rather prattle on endlessly about Fukushima - without recognizing that almost all of the people in the area of the failed reactors who died were killed by seawater and not radiation - than we would have a serious discussion of what the destruction of the entire planetary atmosphere might mean.
980 ppm sounds reasonable to me. In my lifetime, I've seen an increase of over 100 ppm, and despite the trillions thrown at so called "renewable energy" the rate of increase (the second derivative) is rising and accelerating (the third derivative).
I have been studying and thinking about direct air capture for sometime to dream that something will be available for future generations to clean up the mess we left for them because, well, we need our cars, and we need our vacations, and we need our suburbs, etc, etc.
Fugettaboutit.
The technical stuff from the paper:
The introduction continues thus:
However, CO2 desorption requires high temperatures, which increases equipment costs and energy consumption. On the other hand, the membrane technology does not require high temperatures for CO2 separation, and energy-efficient processes can be established. In particular, facilitated transport membranes (FTMs) are suitable for capturing CO2 from gases with low CO2 concentration, such as those found in closed spaces (0.50.6% of CO2) as well as flue gases (approximately 1015% of CO2). Therefore, FTMs are suitable for DAC applications.
FTMs are functional membranes that contain a chemical compound called a CO2 carrier.(8?24) The CO2 carrier can selectively and reversibly absorb CO2 by a chemical reaction. Therefore, FTMs have an extremely high CO2 permeability, even at low CO2 partial pressure.(8?12,16?24) Sarma Kovvali et al. reported that FTMs consisting of polyamidoamine in a porous hydrophilized polyvinylidene fluoride flat membrane showed CO2 permeability of 4100 barrer [1 barrer = 1 × 1010 cm3 (STP) cm/(cm2 s cmHg)] at a CO2 partial pressure of 0.26 cmHg for completely humidified CO2/N2 mixed gas at room temperature.(10) Chen et al. also reported that FTMs containing glycineNaglycerol had CO2 permeability of more than 3000 barrer at CO2 partial pressure of 0.5 cmHg under relative humidity exceeding 70% at room temperature (23 ± 2 °C).(8)...
What follows is a number of references to publications in which various scientific groups discussed the utility of amino acids for CO2 capture.
The authors not however, that the thickness of layers and the viscosity of amino acid solutions are a limitation. They here suggest a supported membrane consisting of hollow fibers to support an amino acidate (an ionic amino acid species). (This is, by the way, sort of similar to what goes on in biological systems for transporting CO2. Biological systems are quite good at CO2 capture from the air.)
The authors write:
Ionic liquids are comprised of organic ions that are positively charged and organic ions that are negatively charged. (Sometimes one of the ions will not be organic, but most often they are.) These are not entirely new compounds. Stable organic ions have been known for a very long time. Brains, among other organs, function because of the organic ion choline, which is positively charged, and many choline based ionic liquids are known. These ionic salts are remarkable because, as the name implies, they can be liquid at, below or slightly above room temperature. They are a positively huge area of research.
Some pictures from the text to illuminate the authors approach in which they polymerize a fairly well known class of organic cations, alkyl imidazolium cations, and then do ion exchange with the resulting resin, exchanging a bromine ion for a glycinate anion, derived from the simplest amino acid, glycine:
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The separation between nitrogen and carbon dioxide - the important point since air is mostly nitrogen - as a function of gel layer thickness is shown:
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(A GPU is a unit of gas permeance that has a unit of volume of a gas at standard temperature and pressure (STP) per unit of surface area of the permeating surface, per second per unit of pressure). The unit is sometimes denoted the "Barrer." )
Subsequent diagrams will make better sense with this bit of text:
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The molecular weight distribution was determined by old fashioned GPC (Size exclusion chromatography) and not something like MALS. (Multiangle light scattering) It's good as a first approximation.
Some results of the dialysis:
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And now the important stuff, the selectivity:
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The conclusion:
These are dark times, and in dark times, sometimes it relieves the pain to recognize that for all that is, there are also things - good things - that are possible.
We have left our children nothing but disaster, except, in the cases like the work of scientists like these, perhaps some tools that they might use to dig out of the graves we have dug for them.
Have a nice TGIF day tomorrow.
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)NNadir
(33,515 posts)The reality is this:
Carbon dioxide is not considered that valuable a commodity, and in any case, we have no interest in the environment.
There are plenty of streams of carbon dioxide that are far more concentrated by air, mostly dangerous fossil fuel waste, which is simply dumped into the atmosphere along with other things that kill people.
We are leaving this legacy of waste for all future generations; however we are also leaving them some valuable knowledge, assuming that our fondness for ignorance does not lead to an event that is the equivalent of burning the library at Alexandria.
This technology will be valuable in another time, but isn't so now, or at least I cannot think of an application that would make the only thing about which we care, money.