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Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:02 AM

The look of Vindication after 40 years





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Reply The look of Vindication after 40 years (Original post)
Ichingcarpenter Jul 2012 OP
MADem Jul 2012 #1
Ichingcarpenter Jul 2012 #10
MADem Jul 2012 #12
dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #2
Ichingcarpenter Jul 2012 #3
dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #4
tclambert Jul 2012 #5
tclambert Jul 2012 #6
tclambert Jul 2012 #7
irisblue Jul 2012 #8
FraDon Jul 2012 #9
lastlib Jul 2012 #11
MADem Jul 2012 #13

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:11 AM

1. He doesn't look vindicated to me--he looks like he's been given something

to eat and he's not sure if that's what he wants.

Is that Peter Higgs? If so, he has been vindicated, even though he looks a bit bemused in that shot.

For anyone who doesn't understand the OP, here's the story:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/48073695/ns/technology_and_science-science/

GENEVA Peter Higgs was no good in the lab, but he never doubted that one day his theory of a powerful subatomic particle that bears his name would be proven right in practice. His surprise was that he lived to see that day.
Speaking at Geneva's CERN research center on Wednesday after experimental physicists announced the discovery of a new particle, a boson much as Higgs imagined half a century ago, he confessed to Reuters he felt "rather dazed but very pleased."
As a schoolboy in Bristol in the southwest of England, the now 83-year-old Higgs admitted to being "incompetent" at science in the laboratory. He went on, however, to specialize in the theoretical realm, applying mathematics to exploring the outer reaches of our understanding of the universe that makes us.
One paper he dispatched from Edinburgh University in 1964, as he was formulating a theory of an elusive particle to explain how an ordered universe emerged from Big Bang, was rejected by an academic physics journal edited at CERN.

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:11 PM

10. Thanks for posting in the Science forum

We do like snark

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:01 PM

12. Oh hell, it ain't snark--I am a science DOLT.

I'm not kidding. I did very well in the language arts and humanities, but science and math? Those qualified as childhood torture segments in my long-ago academic life.

That doesn't mean I find the topic uninteresting--I find much of it fascinating, I just sorta, kinda, suck at it! Anything that could be explained to you in a simple paragraph, would take, for me to get it, a year of patient repetition--and even if I did "get" it, it would probably be more rote memorization than actual understanding.

Everyone has their talents. When it comes to science, all I can do is stand on the sidelines, and marvel, and applaud. It's why I am an avid supporter of more science and maths in the schools--perhaps, if I'd gotten it earlier and from better teachers, I wouldn't be such a ... dolt!

I enjoy the science forum. I learn stuff here--maybe not terribly well, but I do learn a thing or two!

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:29 AM

2. Yes - pictures which say everything

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:50 AM

3. I found this for a laugh on Fake CNN

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:25 AM

4. I did read once

that Cain and Abel were twin gods. Cain the punisher and Abel sweetness and light. The Jews got the dud one.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:48 AM

5. He was actually looking at pictures of puppies the whole time.

That part of the context may not come through from these isolated photos.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:49 AM

6. You should be ashamed of yourself, making fun of a great moment in science

and a personal triumph for Professor Higgs.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 06:51 AM

7. I am. Ashamed and kinda proud at the same time.

A Schrodinger's gloat situation.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:42 AM

8. ...puns so early?..n/t

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:47 AM

9. bravo to the science folks (assuming you're not making all this up)

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you know, like the so-called wars on drugs, poverty, terror

you know, jobs programs (just kiddin about you scientists)

Bravo to Dr. Higgs ~ stick to your crazy connect-the-dots visions.

I heard on NPR that a reviewer came up with the descriptor "the goddamned particle" (due to its elusiveness), and THAT person's editor shortened it to the god particle and it just stuck.

[On Edit:] Just saw this:
Meanwhile the Sun sums up the complexity of the subject: "Never in the field of human knowledge has so much been written about something understood by so few."

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Response to FraDon (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 08:26 PM

11. well, there's a reason they didn't let me play with sub-atomic particles.....

I won't go into that.........

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Response to FraDon (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:04 PM

13. Ha ha ha!

"Never in the field of human knowledge has so much been written about something understood by so few."

I resemble that remark!

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