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deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:56 PM Jan 2013

Youth pastor: The rise of atheism is inevitable.



FULL QUOTE: "Information and time are on the side of nonbelievers. Every single day that the idea of a god persists, more will disbelieve in His existence. There is simply nothing we can do about it but accept the inevitable and hope they do not treat Christians the way Christians have treated them."

From his mouth to the FSM's noodly ears.
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Youth pastor: The rise of atheism is inevitable. (Original Post) deucemagnet Jan 2013 OP
Well, I certainly don't plan to torture any of them, mr blur Jan 2013 #1
+1 Scuba Jan 2013 #3
they don't burn well anyway. Too wet. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2013 #4
I'd bet my house OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author keithmkr59255us Jan 2013 #16
I'd like to make it illegal for the fundy men to have access to boner pills, though. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #14
They do it themselves Gore1FL Jan 2013 #15
I am putting them... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #19
Heh Auggie Jan 2013 #2
Holy smokes! There is a youth pastor who can be trusted Warpy Jan 2013 #6
What I don't get... FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #7
No... gcomeau Jan 2013 #8
I'd buy that for a LOT of cases, but the quote that started this thread sounds like it comes from FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #9
Apparently, this guy's wife is questioning her faith and may not believe. deucemagnet Jan 2013 #11
Interesting FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #12
If he was more together than that... gcomeau Jan 2013 #13
No, only that it won't stand up to what science is telling us Warpy Jan 2013 #10
I think it's how science is explaining things people used to say "God did it" ShadowLiberal Jan 2013 #20
God could put this all away by appearing on "The View," dimbear Jan 2013 #17
must be frustrating for he/she/it Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #18
I'm personally glad that traditional religion is on its way out..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #21

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
4. they don't burn well anyway. Too wet.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jan 2013

No, I just plan to laugh as their ignorance digs them an ever deeper hole.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
5. I'd bet my house
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jan 2013

that is a real fear for some of them. They know they have misbehaved badly and can't grasp the thought that everyone isn't like them.

Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #5)

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
6. Holy smokes! There is a youth pastor who can be trusted
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jan 2013

with kids! Wow!

I just hope s/he is managing to teach the kiddies that sort of tolerance.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
7. What I don't get...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

"Information and time are on the side of nonbelievers"

Isn't that an admission that his faith isn't true?

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
8. No...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

...it's an admission that the evidence isn't on his side. Which would matter if most religious believers made their decisions about God based on evidence... but they don't. They declare that what they believe is true regardless of the evidence, call it "having faith", and declare it to be the pinnacle of virtue to do so.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
9. I'd buy that for a LOT of cases, but the quote that started this thread sounds like it comes from
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

someone a little more together than that.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
13. If he was more together than that...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jan 2013

...then he wouldn't have been able to make such a straightforward statement about information being on the other side without batting an eye about still believing contrary to that information, would he? And being a youth pastor I have to assume his eyes remain un-batted... but perhaps I'm wrong and any day now he's going to drop that position and join the ranks of the atheists.

(In which case, he stops being a believer, and my comment as it pertains to believers remains in force)

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
10. No, only that it won't stand up to what science is telling us
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

about the age and nature of the universe. No one who isn't sleepwalking through life can take any of it literally any more.

People will continue to tuck irrational stuff away in the "use in case of disaster" compartment in their brains, to be pulled out like a security blanket when the world around them has gone nuts.

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
20. I think it's how science is explaining things people used to say "God did it"
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jan 2013

If you went back a few thousand years ago people used to say things like God made it rain, or the Rain God made it rain. Natural disasters were God's wrath for some misbehavior or something. Long before we could predict the weather and figure out what caused it.

These days if we can't explain something we're more likely to say it's something scientific we don't understand instead of saying God is doing it.

And even in some cases where there's no answer people now guess things other then god are responsible. For example, many people say UFO's they see must be aliens in the sky.

The less you know about science and such, the easier it is to be religious probably (look at the numbers on religion, or lack of it, among US scientists).

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