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Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:58 AM

We are all born atheists...





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Reply We are all born atheists... (Original post)
cleanhippie Mar 2013 OP
nonoyes Mar 2013 #1
Neoma Mar 2013 #2
Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #3
nonoyes Mar 2013 #4
Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #5
amuse bouche Mar 2013 #6
truegrit44 Mar 2013 #7
dmallind Mar 2013 #8

Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 05:22 PM

1. There are actually many "Christianists" who dispute this:

 

They have a new theory as to how you are "born Christian", and stray, and come back, and are redeemed, and "born again"... but they have a theory about the Earth being 6000 years old, too!

So, you know.. just sayin!

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Response to nonoyes (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:11 PM

2. People need to grow up and take responsibilities, not go and get born again and become a child.

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Response to nonoyes (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:19 PM

3. Yeah, right.

I wonder how so many people in the world are not born Christian. You know, like people all over the world, or people born before Jesus was born. If you never hear about Jesus, I guarantee you, you will NOT be a Christian.

That attitude amazes me, and I am short on amazement these days.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:32 PM

4. Jesus SAVES only those the believe, so give me $ to prove

 

that you believe. That's such an obvious con game! Really!

The internet is so easy a place to start these con games, Atheists could make a fortune on this sort of appeal.

Only thing: Atheists have more ethics than these con artists.

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Response to nonoyes (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:40 PM

5. Ain't that the true.

I would really feel like a heel to take money from these poor, deluded souls. And it isn't that I would worry about my eternal soul...but obviously, neither do the scumbags who do not feel like a heel.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:05 PM

6. And the brainwashing

begins immediately. It's a wonder we ever get back to our true selves at all

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2013, 02:42 AM

7. +1 ain't it the truth..........

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2013, 10:31 AM

8. An impossible but wonderful experiment suggests itself

If a group of children could be raised free from the proselytizing of any faith, but with open access to any mythology or religious text they desire, along with a sound science and liberal arts education, how many would choose to believe in a religion and which ones?

It's impossible because no matter how benign and well-supplied, they would essentially be isolated from society at large, as nothing else would prevent peer-pressure indoctrination from more religiously-reared peers, and what court would condone that for innocents? But what we could learn from the results! Perhaps counterintuitively I for one would not suspect blanket atheism as the result. Majority perhaps, but the factors that made religions become as endemic as they are are inherent in all of us. Few people actually like the idea that there is no extrinsic purpose or goal in life, and many are comforted by the idea of eternal just rewards, or satiated by the idea of eternal just punishment of their tormentors. I just think absent the brainwashing, the internal conflicts and absurdities of all faiths would prevent wholesale freely chosen adoption of any of them. You may find a westernized neo-Buddhist or two among the group. Perhaps a modernized Hindu among the dreamier types. But the idea of anybody choosing one of the desert monotheisms as being both useful and true among all options as a totally unguided choice is I feel a bit fanciful.

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