That's not faith. That's insanity.

[cleanhippie]

[Phillip McCleod]

1. unfortunately such insanity is so commonplace it's accepted as normal..

..and *not* believing in the bollocks is considered abnormal.

at least the KJV has a few centuries under it's belt to give it a veneer of authority. what kind of gullible tool reads 'dianetics' or 'the book of mormon' and thinks, 'yeah that sounds true'?

[skepticscott]

2. But nobody sensible takes it literally

Well, except when they do....

[skepticscott]

4. No, the facts make what they have to say true

And if you want to complain about anti-theism and the criticism of religious silliness, this is not the place for it.

[skepticscott]

10. If you need to be educated on the VERY well documented

origins of the King James Bible, just say so, and you can have all the information you want. This is not a controversial subject, and intelligent people assume that other intelligent people won't embarrass themselves by disputing its major points, and don't need them demonstrated over and over.

And this is not a blog, it's a safe haven group, where your kind of apologist snark is not welcome or allowed. If you want to continue to post here, I suggest you alter your attitude, or at least pretend to.

[madmom]

6. Would a comment such as this be aloud in the

interfaith group? Seriously, I'd really like to know.

[madmom]

8. So you always comment in a group without regards to or checking the SOP?

If I were to do the same thing, would it be left alone, or would I be banished?

[skepticscott]

11. Not only did they not check

But they continued to post snark after being politely reminded of the nature of this room.

[skepticscott]

13. And apparently they preferred

a hit and run job followed by a whitewash to an apology.

Good riddance.

[JNelson6563]

9. I have done that too.

I once didn't realize what group I'd landed in when following link from front page. Since then of course I am really careful to note where I am before commenting.

BTW, the info in the OP is true.

Julie

[the_chinuk]

12. Something tells me the thread was lost long before that.

They were probably editing Jesus' words almost immediately after they lost track of that dude.

[bobclark86]

14. I just want to know...

how the sons of fishermen and carpenters in the 1st century knew how to read and write? They didn't exactly have Hooked on Phonics for the commoners back then...

[Mariana]

23. The story goes that one of them was a tax collector.

I imagine a tax collector would have been educated well enough to read, write, and figure.

[defacto7]

15. Actually, I disagree....

This IS faith! It's faith that is insanity.

[cleanhippie]

22. +1

[defacto7]

16. One other note....

Just to show how out of touch with reality the bibleites are, King James I who commissioned that translation was a Gay man and was buried between his two favorite male suitors in Westminster Abbey. I think it is ironic that most evangelical believers speak so strongly against the Gay community and yet the translation of the bible they revere was supported by a man who would be the focus of their hate.

[skepticscott]

17. Their knowledge of history

never goes that deep. Or of anything else for that matter. Facts intrude on the delusions of faith too harshly.

[Warpy]

18. Their knowledge of the book, itself, goes only as deep

as the stories they were told as children in Sunday school. Most of them have never sat down with the book and read it cover to cover. Their knowledge of what lies within is superficial at best and they are more likely to use the book as a talisman than as something to be read and considered on its own merits.

I'll never forget my mother's reaction when she finally read the whole thing. It was pretty hilarious!

[frogmarch]

19. What was her reaction?

[Warpy]

20. She was PISSED OFF!

"That crock of shit is what's been held over my head all my life?"

I don't think my dad ever got her into a church again.

[frogmarch]

21. Wow!

It certainly sounds as if your mom had a good head on her shoulders.