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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:11 PM Aug 2014

St. Paul's atheists are coming out of the closet

Interesting article and encouraging for a change.

SCTimes
St. Paul's atheists are coming out of the closet
August 11, 2014

ST. PAUL – Do atheists get a seat at God's table? In St. Paul, they do now.

The Interfaith Conversation Cafe in St. Paul, which gathers people of many religions for a monthly discussion, is now open to nonreligions. The organizers have removed "faith" from the name, explaining that atheists felt excluded by it, and are calling it the "Interbelief Conversation Cafe."

"We are leaders in the field," said Frank Burton, a member of the Minneapolis branch of Circle of Reason, a group that includes atheists and believers and lobbied for the change.

Minnesota's atheists are coming out of the closet...

MORE at http://www.sctimes.com/story/life/2014/08/11/st-pauls-atheists-coming-closet/13883771/

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St. Paul's atheists are coming out of the closet (Original Post) theHandpuppet Aug 2014 OP
They have lots of Scandinavian Socialists, too. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2014 #1
St. Paul Sunday Morning. progressoid Aug 2014 #8
And please remember the "Mr Paul Ain'ts" intaglio Aug 2014 #2
Good for them. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #3
You betcha! trotsky Aug 2014 #4
What's wrong with me? Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #5
Aw, don't feel bad. trotsky Aug 2014 #6
That could be true. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #7
"Interbelief Conversation Cafe" defacto7 Aug 2014 #9
I had the same thought. onager Aug 2014 #10
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
1. They have lots of Scandinavian Socialists, too.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:16 PM
Aug 2014

That's why they have strong public radio--St. Paul Sunday Morning and Minnesota Public Radio.
As well as a long history of union activism and support.

That wouldn't fly in Texas. They'd get excluded from public office (Oh, wait, I believe you can't be a public official and an atheist in Texas already).


In Texas you'd probably get firebombed, at least in the rural areas. You don't dare mention not going to church or not believing in the predominant flavor of Protestantism (usually either Baptist, conservative Methodists, or in your lower-educated types, Assembly of God, Pentacostal, or independent unaffiliated super-strict churches, where no fun is allowed).

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
8. St. Paul Sunday Morning.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

Man, I haven't listened to that for ages. Used to wake up to that show when I lived in Washington.

Now it's a smart phone alarm.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Good for them.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:01 PM
Aug 2014

I do hope that their conversations are more productive than discussions here in places where we are supposed to be all-inclusive.

I would bet it is more respectful though. Face to face conversations make it harder to be rude. The internet can be a place to dump on the world when you can't do it IRL.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. You betcha!
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:43 PM
Aug 2014

And of course it's more respectful. That's half the fun of being online, you don't have to hold back.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. What's wrong with me?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:03 PM
Aug 2014

I still feel that being civil is important. Although I will sometimes get heated, here and IRL. I don't seem to get that online persona.



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Aw, don't feel bad.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:06 PM
Aug 2014

It's not for you. Some of us have had to hold our tongues for so long, we just need to have a release.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. That could be true.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:12 PM
Aug 2014

I don't hold my tongue, therefore, nothing builds up.

Well, I lie. One day I may explode at work....where I have to put up with some things that no one should have to put up with just for a paycheck. But at least they know I am an atheist, so that doesn't have to eat at me.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
9. "Interbelief Conversation Cafe"
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:17 PM
Aug 2014

I don't mean to be nit picky but I will be anyway. That name doesn't work any better.

onager

(9,356 posts)
10. I had the same thought.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 07:18 PM
Aug 2014

Not much difference. If they really want to attract non-believers, just leave the loaded words out of the title completely. Come up with some neutral term.

And yeah, I'll be That Persion - I wonder if it will work as well as another "Interfaith" group we all know about?

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