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(6,604 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I was raised in the American culture that teaches us how to be victims of exploitation. God Dam Atheists (as if he needs my demand to do such).
Did you ever wonder why Neil degrasse Tyson doesn't believe in God? He is God. Duh!
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Cool by definition.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)sacrilegious by definition. Mr. Tyson is cool.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)My brother and sisters and I discussed starting a church just for that reason. But we didn't. Because we had morals. But we had a lot of fun coming up with the whole concept of The Church of The Round---where the devil could never corner you.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)where communion means eating tasty cheeseburgers?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Apparently, not everyone has suffered from moral qualms.
Here's Mark Twain writing about a particular sacred book. I've left off the incriminating details so as not to blatantly offend anyone, although the subject should be fairly obvious.
The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James's translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrelhalf modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modernwhich was about every sentence or twohe ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as "exceeding sore," "and it came to pass," etc., and made things satisfactory again. "And it came to pass" was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)Joseph Smith was a con-man and child rapist, and I'll point it out every time the topic of Mormonism's brought up. We're in the Atheists & Agnostics group here, so there's no need for you to censor your posts.
Mark Twain, reviewing the "Book" of Mormon:
The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King Jamess translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrelhalf modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modernwhich was about every sentence or twohe ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as exceeding sore, and it came to pass, etc., and made things satisfactory again. And it came to pass was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Phew!
I've been alerted before for what I thought was obvious sarcasm, so I've grown a little skittish.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I'd post images, but I think you can guess who I'm talking about, in general.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I don't have the wall space.
Oh MORALS!..... not murals
jaded_old_cynic
(190 posts)Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)Roth Mural:
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)But is it moral to paint a mural of morels?
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)Perhaps Rainforestgoddess can paint a moral, rural morel mural?
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)I'll pm my rates. Oh, plus travel expenses, I imagine.
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)Have a blank wall that's crying out for a fungassy makeover?
onager
(9,356 posts)"I am an atheist and I consider religions to be a form of collective neurosis." - Diego Rivera. Good thing he doesn't post in the Religion forum, I guess...
I'm sure RFG has forgotten more than I will ever know about murals and Diego Rivera. So I'm just ranting to hear myself rant (as usual).
But anyway...Mexico City is the mother lode of murals! Besides the ones in the museums, they're all over the city as decoration. Walking around there is a real treat for the eyes.
Chapultepec Castle has a great forced-perspective mural painted on a ceiling. Depicts a famous event during the 1846 war when a Mexican military cadet grabbed the Mexican flag and jumped over the wall to his death. When you look up at the mural, he appears to be falling right on top of your head.
While I was gawking at that mural, our tour guide said: "You call it the Mexican-American War. We call it 'Invasion de los Norte-Americanos.'"
Here's Diego Rivera's "The Inquisition In Mexico," with some heretics about to roast:
And a bonus detail from another Rivera mural - an Aztec princess showing off her tats:
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)And speaking of Rivera....
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-flower-sniffer-margaret-rolfe.html
Another thing I did - I make pastiches of famous paintings for the two vet clinics my husband and I own.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yes...I saw that when I went to Mexico City a million years ago.
I remember tons of public art everywhere.....mainly in the center of the many traffic circles.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Next time a believer says that you don't have morals because you are an atheist, whisper into his ear:
"That's right. And I also don't believe in hell. You know what's holding me back from committing murder? NOTHING!"
I forgot where I read that.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Jovi-Balani
(14 posts)Saying we dont have morals is another way of calling us animals - or suggesting that somehow the religious are more 'evolved' than athiests - ironically.
But seriously, i cant believe i havent seen it on this thread - Sam Harris' The moral landscape just blows this argument out of the water.
check out his ted talk above- kick ass awesome.