The Amazing Pope.

[cleanhippie]

[AlbertCat]

1. Love it!

I've been rolling my eyes for months (they're starting to really ache) since Pope Fabulous started uttering the most sophomoric statements of altruism and everyone goes all gooey.

OMG.... who knew the Catholic Church was for helping people? This is all new to the church, right?

[PeaceNikki]

2. I know!! I often wonder if I could die or seriously injure myself from eyerolling so hard.

EVERY TIME this pope opens his trap about capitalism, people here are drooling in adoration and love and shock, OMFG, he's like *US*.

Really, people? Every pope since the history of capitalism has fucking railed against it. Fat lotta good they do. It's ridiculous to watch any of the RCC leadership talk about taking care of the poor while they hoard billions in cash and assets and HIDE assets from victims of abuse.

ugh... i need to stop, it angers me so.

[RussBLib]

3. after Joey Ratz, a turd smells pretty good

Joey was THE PERSONIFICATION OF EVIL.

[PeaceNikki]

4. meh, he's not that unique or 'revolutionary'

Ratz made a lot of the same bullshit speeches that this joker has.

Pope Benedict Slams Capitalism, Economic Inequality

And they can STILL go suck an egg with gripes about women's reproductive choices. This world is overpopulated enough and lack of reproductive choice is a major contributing factor to poverty.

[LiberalAndProud]

5. If one doctrine should be changed, yesterday already,

it is the "go forth and multiply" edict. That would be a powerful change.

[PeaceNikki]

6. But the RCC and Francis have doubled-down on it!

Responding to a question to the pope of whether the progress of capitalism over the past decades is “irreversible.”

I recognize that globalization has helped many people to rise from poverty, but it has condemned many others to hunger. It’s true that in absolute terms it grows world wealth, but it also increased the disparity and the new kinds of poverty.

What I notice is that this system is maintained with the culture of waste, of which I have already spoken several times. There is a politics, sociology, and also an attitude of rejection.

When at the center of the system there is not anymore man but money, when money becomes an idol, men and women are reduced and simply instruments of a social system and an economy characterized, indeed dominated by deep imbalances.

… It is that attitude that rejects children and old people, and now also affects young people. I have the impression that in the developed countries there are many millions of young people under 25 years that don’t have work. I have called them “nor-nor”, because they don’t study and they don’t work: they don’t study because they don’t have possibility to do so, don’t work because they can’t find it.

But I would like to also remember that the culture of waste refuses children also with abortion. It strikes me the rates of birth so low here in Italy: Like this you lose the link with the future.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/11/pope-francis-drops-truth-bomb-on-capitalism/

[LiberalAndProud]

8. I think we should look to North Africa to understand

what losing the link with the future looks like. Overpopulation, climate change and superstition have coalesced into a miasma that even the Pope's God can't fix.

[onager]

7. HATER! You caused those pedophile priests, you know...

Well, damned if this ain't some Sophisticated Theology, from Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke.

Of course it's ANCIENT news, posted 2 whole days ago...

American Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke blames paedophile priests on 'radical feminists'

by Loulla-Mae Eleftheriou-Smith - Monday 12 January 2015

An American Cardinal has claimed that “radical feminism” is to blame for a host of issues within the Catholic Church and blamed feminists for creating paedophiles, or sexually confused “disordered men” who entered the priesthood and sexually abused children.

Cardinal Raymond Burke, who was last year demoted by Pope Francis from the head of the Vatican’s highest court to a role with little responsibility, has claimed that the “radical feminism which has assaulted the Church and society since the 1960s has left men very marginalised”...

He argues that the case for women’s rights has led to men growing up without proper identities, which has detrimental effect in later life. He calls these men “poorly formed,” and blames this for their addictions “to pornography, sexual promiscuity, alcohol, drugs, and a whole gamut of addictions”.

The confusion that radical feminism caused for men in terms of their sexual identity also led to paedophiles becoming priests.

The Cardinal claims that “there was a period of time when men who were feminized and confused about their own sexual identity had entered the priesthood – sadly some of these disordered men sexually abused minors,” which he called “a terrible tragedy for which the Church mourns”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/american-cardinal-raymond-leo-burke-blames-paedophile-priests-on-radical-feminists-9973240.html

[RussBLib]

9. That is some deep denial there

Why, men cannot possibly be held to account for their own personal failings and weaknesses!

Except ... for those "men who were feminized and confused about their own sexual identity" and "had entered the priesthood" and "some of these disordered men sexually abused minors." Yeah, only the feminized men were molesting children, and it was their own damn fault for being so weak and confused. IOW, it's not your own fault, unless you turn out to be gay.

Oy, and I ain't Jewish.

We are so long overdue for overthrowing this mental looney bin/prison.

[onager]

12. Yep, very close to the Fundie Islamic viewpoint

Why, men cannot possibly be held to account for their own personal failings and weaknesses!

I saw many amazing things in Alexandria, Egypt, but this was one of the most amazing:

Beautiful morning, I'm having breakfast in my hotel dining room. That room overlooked the Mediterranean, and the seawall/sidewalk running along the sea.

A Muslim woman was walking on that sidewalk, apparently dressed in conformance with all the rules - she wore long black trousers, a bulky top covering all but her hands, and the hijab (headscarf). So, totally modestly dressed. Perfectly turned out Muslim woman, etc.

A man sitting on the seawall jumped off, stalked stealthily up behind her, and grabbed her ass. Right there in public, in front of Allah and everybody! I couldn't believe I was seeing this. I had seen that happen to Western women in Egypt, but they're shameless infidels anyway.

Another Egyptian man saw this happen. He jumped off the seawall, grabbed the groper in a headlock, and proceeded to pound his head for several minutes.

Which I have to admit was gratifying to watch. But unfortunately women can't always count on an outraged man being around. And of course, they shouldn't need to. Anywhere.

I eventually figured out the woman's crime, maybe. She was modestly dressed but did not have a male with her. Had the sheer effrontery to go out walking by herself, which probably announced she was a Loose Woman. Or something like that.

Related Worthless Anecdote...a writer for Egypt Today told this story about an incident during Ramadan - when most Muslims get even more holier-than-everybody. During Ramadan, perfect strangers will harass each other for un-Islamic behavior.

The writer was walking along, minding his own business and sharing a joke with the woman beside him. They were laughing.

A man came up and told him he shouldn't be laughing in public during the Holy Month. And that woman should be walking BEHIND him, not beside him. And he shouldn't be talking to her anyway.

IIRC, the writer's response was: "Yessir, you are correct. I should ignore this most unworthy woman. But I really can't. She's my sister."

[AlbertCat]

13. only the feminized men were molesting children,

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Yeah.... because nobody cares about the abused little girls obviously. They are never mentioned.

Doncha love it.... a man who dropped out of regular society (with women) is telling us all about how it's women's fault that men are dreadful. Why would anyone listen to such damaged goods? What makes him different from all those other men who dropped out so they cold have some sort of power over how others act? This self perpetuating exclusive men's club from the Dark Ages is ridiculous.

[progressoid]

10. He's going to be 88 this year.

When he dies, it's going to be another Popepalooza on TV for a week.

[amuse bouche]

14. Awesome pic

That's religion in a nut shell

[progressoid]

11. Whoa. God musta spoke to him.

[PeaceNikki]

15. The Pope thinks we should STFU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026088306

[onager]

16. HA! "There Are Limits to Free Expression"

Yes, and we know one bunch who's always trying to set those limits - the Pope's corporation. From the medieval book (and people) burnings, right up to the butt-puckered Catholic Legion of Decency that kept American movies at the pabulum level for decades.

Interesting thread. "Mock the silly beliefs of anyone you like. Except my personal beliefs, which are not silly but the Revealed Truth and should never be mocked."

At least I think that was the message from the good liberal religiosos in the thread.

[Warren Stupidity]

17. The more I read about this the worse it gets.

He actually said that violence was to be expected. He went there.

[PeaceNikki]

18. he was being silly. lol, ha, ha. it's cute and fun to joke about violence in context of a murderous

Rampage.

[LiberalAndProud]

19. It's bad enough in the Religion group.

That GD thread is a bit beyond my tolerance level.