Thu Jan 29, 2015, 08:18 PM
LostOne4Ever (8,819 posts)
Illinois Pastafarian Wants to Wear a Colander on his Head for His Driver’s License Picture
[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Old article but a relevant one.[/font]
[div class="excerpt" style="background-color:#f0f0f0; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-top:none; border-radius:0em 0em 0.4615em 0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"] [center] [div class="excerpt" style="background-color:#dcdcdc; padding-bottom:5px; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-bottom:none; border-radius:0.4615em 0.4615em 0em 0em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]Illinois Pastafarian Wants to Wear a Colander on his Head for His Driver’s License Picture, but Gets Rejected ![]() ![]() June 22, 2013 by Hemant Mehta A few years ago, Austrian Niko Alm won the right to wear a colander, the official headgear for Pastafarians, in his driver’s license picture: ![]() In February of this year, 25-year-old Aaron Williams of New Jersey tried to do something similar but got rejected. And now it’s happening again. On May 9th, Donald Hoover went to renew his license in Pekin, Illinois. He figured wearing a colander wouldn’t be a problem since state law allows for “religious head dressings not covering any areas of the open face.” The person assisting him, after speaking with his superiors, eventually told Hoover he couldn’t wear it because Illinois didn’t recognize Pastafarianism as an official religion. ... [font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]More at link! Pastafarianism, even if it is a joke religion, deserves the same rights and privileges as any other belief. Who is to say what a "legitimate religion" is or is not? States, governments, groups and organizations that try and deny them the same rights are illiberal and discriminatory and should be called out on it. From the Pastafarian website:[/font] [div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]Whatever you decide, remember this FSM is a real, legitimate religion, as much as any other. The fact that many see this is as a satirical religion doesn’t change the fact that by any standard one can come up with, our religion is as legitimate as any other. And *that* is the point. [font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]/Ramen[/font]
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Author | Time | Post |
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LostOne4Ever | Jan 2015 | OP |
Warren Stupidity | Jan 2015 | #1 | |
Curmudgeoness | Jan 2015 | #2 | |
trotsky | Jan 2015 | #7 | |
Brainstormy | Jan 2015 | #8 | |
trotsky | Jan 2015 | #9 | |
Curmudgeoness | Jan 2015 | #12 | |
Heddi | Jan 2015 | #3 | |
mr blur | Jan 2015 | #4 | |
Scuba | Jan 2015 | #5 | |
trotsky | Jan 2015 | #6 | |
Arugula Latte | Jan 2015 | #10 | |
Pacifist Patriot | Jan 2015 | #11 |
Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 08:20 PM
Warren Stupidity (48,181 posts)
1. Je Suis Donald!
Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:26 PM
Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)
2. Is it a satirical religion?
Who is qualified to say that some people do not have faith that this is real? Is there some time limit on how long a religion has to be established before it is recognized as one of the true religions?
I cannot and will not declare that these people are not believers. We have seen worse.....Jim Jones, Heaven's Gate, etc. |
Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #2)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 09:46 AM
trotsky (49,533 posts)
7. Anyone claiming Pastafarianism isn't a "legitimate" religion...
has just started down a very slippery slope. There are undoubtedly millions of people in the world who don't think that person's religion is "legitimate" either. Who gets to judge a religion's "legitimacy"?
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Response to trotsky (Reply #7)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:40 AM
Brainstormy (2,355 posts)
8. Well, Wikipedia
has a list of "fictional religions." (Can't imagine how various ones made, or got left off, the list, but I can't find Pastafarians on it.
That makes it a "true" religion, yes? |
Response to Brainstormy (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:02 AM
trotsky (49,533 posts)
9. What makes it a "true" religion is for its followers to say it's one, I think!
But it's good to have Wikipedia backing that up I suppose.
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Response to Brainstormy (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:59 PM
Curmudgeoness (18,219 posts)
12. Widipedia, the authority on everything.
Since it is a site where people can post whatever they want, or update whatever they want, it is hardly the best source...unless you are just looking for what movies someone starred in or when someone died.
But you are right, if Pastafarians are not on the list, they must be a true religion. |
Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:04 PM
Heddi (18,312 posts)
3. I'm really surprised that a supposed open and faith-related group on DU is openly & proudly bigoted
against Pastafarians.
Their SOP even states that Pastafarians are EXCLUDED from participating in their group. Their religion is seen as, get this, being "not real." Their beliefs are, per the host of the group, "a parody intended to mock believers." Just a few paragraphs before, everyone is welcomed, believers and non-believers. Well, not EVERYBODY. Just some everybodies. Just a few paragraphs before, everyone is warned "This room is not to mock believers or non-believers," yet a prolific poster of that and other religious-themed groups is allowed, repeatedly, to denigrate and insult an admitted Pastafarian by calling his beliefs "bullshit," and accusing him of being closed minded. Yeah. I know. Seriously. Open bigotry against another religion simply for being DIFFERENT. No ban on Scientologists. No ban on Evangelicals. No ban on Creationists. No ban on obvious cults. No ban for anyone practicing those religious. Nope. Ban some of the most open-minded and tolerant believers I've ever met. Fucking sickening. Bigotry is bigotry, and many of our very own Loving Christian DU'ers are quite happy and proud in their exclusionary group. I pray their God opens their heart and shows them that they're being nasty shits. |
Response to Heddi (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:28 AM
mr blur (7,753 posts)
4. Well, as the saying goes,
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Response to Heddi (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 07:25 AM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
5. Hypocrisy is a necessary ingredient to organized religion.
Response to Heddi (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 09:43 AM
trotsky (49,533 posts)
6. It's real enough to its followers.
Which should be all it takes.
However, the paragons of tolerance allow themselves to be hypocritical bigots. They can boast about the time they were laughing at the Book of Mormon on a road trip. They can mock and belittle Scientology. That's OK, you see, because reasons and stuff. |
Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:25 AM
Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)
10. Yeah, they won't be thinking it's so "satirical" when
His Noodly Appendage boils, strains, and sauces them for their sins.
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Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)
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