Do you support freedom of speech despite intent like the ACLU or are you a closet Geller fan?

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Free Speech

Over the years, the ACLU has frequently represented or defended individuals engaged in some truly offensive speech. We have defended the speech rights of communists, Nazis, Ku Klux Klan members, accused terrorists, pornographers, anti-LGBT activists, and flag burners. That’s because the defense of freedom of speech is most necessary when the message is one most people find repulsive. Constitutional rights must apply to even the most unpopular groups if they’re going to be preserved for everyone.

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	I cheer Geller's bigotry
	0 (0%)
	I champion Geller's 1st amendment rights even though she's a despicable bigot
	6 (75%)
	Shut up bmus and hand me my pom poms
	0 (0%)
	Geller's head of a hate group but the pope is a progressive liberal trying to change the RCC from the inside
	1 (13%)
	You're not a high school girl. What's your reason?
	0 (0%)
	Ooga booga! Dakwinz and other old white men *insert scary Dawkins picture here*
	0 (0%)
	It's really hard not to love Ben Carson *insert fawning movie review here*
	0 (0%)
	I like pie
	1 (13%)
	I like this pope! Fresh Air! Real voice for progressives! Fuck all anti-theist fascists!
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[PeaceNikki]

1. I'm far too shy to share my opinions on the matter.

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2. Me too.

[deucemagnet]

3. I like pie,

but I like the first amendment more.

[beam me up scottie]

9. So do I.

But but but islamophobia !!1!

[Silent3]

23. What about pie with ice cream on top vs. the 1st Amendment? n/t

[deucemagnet]

26. Only if it's served on Sofia Vergara's tummy. n/t

[LostOne4Ever]

4. As a former catholic, I gotta go with Pope Bigo...er Francisco (nt)

[beam me up scottie]

10. But by criticizing the RCC you really dilute the focus on the true hate groups like Ms. Geller's

The hate speech used by the pope (like comparing gender theory to Hitler Youth propaganda) is not extremist enough for some.

[Warren Stupidity]

5. I haz bliefs which mok hurtz!

Stopits!

[beam me up scottie]

6. DUers shouldn't mock religious people for their beliefs, it's an attack.

Even when a homophobic bigots' beliefs motivate them to compare same sex marriage to pedophilia, incest and bestiality.

Must. Not. Mock. Believers.

They deserve our respect.

[deucemagnet]

11. But what about the believers on the "OK to mock" list?

Does this mean Scientologists, Raelians, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Snake Handlers are off limits? Not to mention ALL creationists?

[beam me up scottie]

12. You'll have to check with the resident experts in other parts of DU.

When we mock religion it's bigotry, when they do it it's...well it's just different.

Because reasons.

[onager]

25. Oh, just get on the boat, Grumpy...

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27. !

[Rainforestgoddess]

7. I will vote for dawkin urp!

He is my leader and requires me to support him in everything he does and says. Urp

[beam me up scottie]

8. Oh good, you got the memo.

I just found out.

All hail our Atheist Holy Men!

[Rainforestgoddess]

13. Yes, hail to the Dakwiki!

Kadwins loves you, my childe!

[beam me up scottie]

14. It's really hard not to love THAT man.

[Rainforestgoddess]

15. You bet!

He was quite the looker back in the day.

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Reminds me a bit of David Tennant

[onager]

16. You two have the WRONG OPINION!

Both of you are obviously rich privileged racist/sexist/ableist old white men pretending to be women to cause trouble. Nope, that "...goddess" nym didn't fool me for a minute.

You're both being watched and will be reported to the Authority of the Perpetually Aggrieved.

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17. BUSTED!

You saw through the whole thing.

This poll is really an homage to obviously rich privileged racist/sexist/ableist old white men.

I'm sure it's being scoured for offendable content as we type.

[Rainforestgoddess]

18. I first clue is my avatar

I'm actually an old, white privileged, sexist, ablest, genius, dead man

[beam me up scottie]

19. And I'm channelling the Mighty Cthulhu!

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[Silent3]

24. Ni! n/t

[onager]

20. You left out JEWISH!

Trying to keep that quiet, eh? Too late - we know all about the Intergalactic Jewish/lluminati/Atheist Conspiracy. And the Lizard Persons.

Stop reading my thoughts! I see your drones!

[PeaceNikki]

21. .

Rofl

[progressoid]

29. He's a muggle!

[kdmorris]

22. I'm really not sure how this is different than the KKK

They are despicable bigots. They are the very epitome of violent fear tactics.

And yet, they are still allowed to march in Washington and say their despicable bigoted bullshit.

I guess they should expect African Americans to shoot the place up because bigotry.

When Neo Nazis are allowed to march and spread their hatred, they should expect Jews (and African Americans again) to shoot them up because bigotry.

So, when one of these yahoos (just Google some of the Republican candidates' stance on atheism) starts spouting their anti-atheist crap, do we get a pass if we were to shoot the place up? No, I don't think we would.

The first amendment does not protect just the speech we like. It protects it ALL. Some of that speech, I find hurtful and some of it angers me... most of the shit Geller said included. BUT they still get to say it because that's what is guaranteed by our constitution.

Killing someone over words or cartoons or anything else that angers you IS ON THE KILLERS. Fuck that noise that says that they lacked all self control because they were provoked. REALLY??? In any other arena than religion that shit would so not fly. If an African American shot up a gathering of the KKK, the most likely result would be the blame would rest squarely on them and NO ONE would say "well, they were provoked.".

I'm just gobsmacked to see how much twisting goes on to protect religion from the very same rules and regulations that govern ALL other areas of our lives.

If I see some Republican talking about women as if we were no better than cattle, I do not get to shoot them. I just don't, no matter how much it hurts, scares or angers me.

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28. Don't forget what the pope, Westboro Baptists and other christian bigots say about lgbt people.

But I'm told that Geller is so much worse because she targets only one group - iow, she's picking on religious people so it's not fair.

The people who want certain kinds of speech banned are clueless, claiming provocation is "incitement" because someone went off the deep end and shot at a hate group.

Incitement is encouraging your followers to commit violent acts.

You don't get to shoot at the person who hurt your fee fees and then have them arrested for provoking you. That's not incitement, it's a severe lack of coping skills.


Why is that so hard for some to understand?